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Dan 4RR
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Burnouts Reply with quote

Does anyone have any tips or some sort of burn out guide for newbies. Reason is, I might be doing a few RWYB events this year and pretty much every biker performs a burnout to heat up tyres, but I'm a little nervous that I'll screw it up and wreck my bike, so any advice would be good.
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really basic.

Put some weight over the front
Hold the front brake tightly
Whilst giving it some gas slowely let out the clutch. (like you're about to ride off)

That's it.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it differently (ish.)

Stand on the ground and push down hard on the front forks then, with the front brake in tightly, rev it upto 7/8k revs. Then let the clutch out slowly until you feel it ''engage''- then instantly let it go.

The bike will fight with you for a fraction of a second but you will be in control then.

To stop, just keep the brake on and let go of the accelarator/bring the clutch in at around 5k revs.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
It's really basic.

Put some weight over the front
Hold the front brake tightly
Whilst giving it some gas slowely let out the clutch. (like you're about to ride off)

That's it.


Yep thats the way....unless you have a less powerfull bike then......

freestyler_onli wrote:
I did it differently (ish.)

Stand on the ground and push down hard on the front forks then, with the front brake in tightly, rev it upto 7/8k revs. Then let the clutch out slowly until you feel it ''engage''- then instantly let it go.

The bike will fight with you for a fraction of a second but you will be in control then.

To stop, just keep the brake on and let go of the accelarator/bring the clutch in at around 5k revs.

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PostPosted: 17:54 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh - well done.

Cool
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is a rolling burnout done then if the front brake has to be held in?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just hold it less tightly, tight enough for the wheel to spin, but loose enough for the spinning wheel to move the bike forwards.

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PostPosted: 18:02 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a video guide to burnouts & rolling burnouts from the same guys who did the wheelie one (superbike i think). Can't find it anywhere tho.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note - not all stips need you to do burnouts.
The 'proper' strips like santa pod and Avon Raceway you may need to, to get good grip.
However, at Elvington, which is concrete from what I remember, there's plenty enough grip for any standard bike to wheelie off the line pretty much. Therefore burnouts are for show - it's fun, but expensive too.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

freestyler_onli wrote:
I did it differently (ish.)

Stand on the ground and push down hard on the front forks then, with the front brake in tightly, rev it upto 7/8k revs. Then let the clutch out slowly until you feel it ''engage''- then instantly let it go.


What would happen if you simply dumped the clutch instead of slowly letting it out until it engages... Wheelie?

Also, isn't it a bit hard controlling the throttle/front brake with one hand? Confused
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you get used to it, it's fine to dump the clutch.
However get it wrong and it could wheelie away, flicking you off - so start by slipping the clutch.

For a stationary burnout you're just pulling as tightly as possible on the front, so there's only one thing to focus on and it's not to bad. Doing a rolling burnout takes a little getting used to, but fine when you have; you need to separately control the front brake and the throttle.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
When you get used to it, it's fine to dump the clutch.
However get it wrong and it could wheelie away, flicking you off - so start by slipping the clutch.

For a stationary burnout you're just pulling as tightly as possible on the front, so there's only one thing to focus on and it's not to bad
So pull in front brake with fingers, but try and roll throttle with the palm of your hand?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sorta thing - if your brakes are good enough, should be able to just use two fingers on the brake lever.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi. Is it true that you should do burnout's in second gear because trying one in first gear cause's the bike to go into the redline and could damage the engine through over-reving? Confused
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan 4RR wrote:
Hi. Is it true that you should do burnout's in second gear because trying one in first gear cause's the bike to go into the redline and could damage the engine through over-reving? Confused


Well if your getting near the redline just ease off a little.

Or if you can shift quick enough pop it into second while your doing a burnout.

I could do a rolling burnout/donut on my old TDR125, if i can do it on that anything is possible Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Re: Burnouts Reply with quote

Dan 4RR wrote:
Does anyone have any tips or some sort of burn out guide for newbies. Reason is, I might be doing a few RWYB events this year and pretty much every biker performs a burnout to heat up tyres, but I'm a little nervous that I'll screw it up and wreck my bike, so any advice would be good.
Cheers. Smile Thumbs Up


Wheel your bike around the burnout box (puddle of water) then reverse back so your rear tyre is standing in the puddle. Stand up and lean forward onto the tank a bit, push down on your arms and hold the front brake on, then just rev it and let the clutch out smoothly and it will start to spin-up. Don't ride your bike through the box or your front tyre will be wet and might slip.

Where are you thinking of going for your RWYB? SantaPod? Elvington?
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a bike-only event at Santa Pod the weekend after next (17th /18th March). There's no better place to go drag racing and you'll be able to get all the help and advice you need.

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PostPosted: 23:22 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully, we'll be there this Sunday.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatcha doing this Sunday G?
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a run what ya' brung. Get some practice in for the race starts.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Re: Burnouts Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
Where are you thinking of going for your RWYB? SantaPod? Elvington?
Laughing Nooo Yorkrace way. Like the cheaper northern version of Santa Pod.
Not that far from Elvington to be honest. York raceway is only 1/4 mile long, where as Elvington is 2.5 -3.5 miles long?

https://www.york-raceway.co.uk/homepage.html
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the York Raceway is a dragstrip whereas Elvington is a runway. Usually at Elvington they line up to dragrace in a pair as normal but if you want to continue on the top-speed flyer you'll join the left lane and keep going, where the right-lane peel-off and return to the pits. Elvington has good grip for quarters for a runway.
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
It's really basic.

Put some weight over the front
Hold the front brake tightly
Whilst giving it some gas slowely let out the clutch. (like you're about to ride off)

That's it.


WRONG

Every time SOMEONE says it. Rolling Eyes
Good way to strip your clutch

Wedge front brake on hard, stand up and forwards (bouncing forwards is a good way to check it's gripped tight), rev, crisply dump clutch fully out. Snap back in clutch to stop.

Dont even consider it a stunt. Tis just fun.

Learning rolling burnouts at the moment.

EDIT: I should point out, aslong as you have the bike bolt upright and your weight over the front and the brake on hard (with grip) nothing bad will happen.

Dont have enough grip it can lurch forward and try to tuck.
If you're not upright the back tries to join the front sharpish.
Weight over front just helps the front grip and stop the back gripping.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:


Wedge front brake on hard, stand up and forwards (bouncing forwards is a good way to check it's gripped tight), rev, crisply dump clutch fully out. Snap back in clutch to stop.
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EDIT: I should point out, aslong as you have the bike bolt upright and your weight over the front and the brake on hard (with grip) nothing bad will happen.

Depending on quite a few other factors, like how good the tyre on either end is, the brakes, etc, etc.

It does eat clutches a bit, but I always recommend doing it by slipping for the first few times, especially if they've never done it before. Just release the clutch sooner and sooner until you're happy dumping.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 06 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can practice to get the feel of it on something slippery like grass - less tyre wear too.
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