Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Oil change

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  

Good deal or no deal?
Good deal
40%
 40%  [ 11 ]
No deal
59%
 59%  [ 16 ]
Total Votes : 27

Author Message

Feasty
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:48 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Oil change Reply with quote

I'm getting my oil changed and filter cleaned on my XR125 tomorrow for £20-£25, good deal or no deal?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

crazymotorbik...
Nearly there...



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:51 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey,

Why don't you change it yourself?

Personnaly I think its one of the easiest jobs you can do on a motorcycle Thumbs Up Its a neccesity on any bike you have so its worth learning how to do it now Thumbs Up

Cheers,
Shaun.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Feasty
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:42 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazymotorbiker wrote:
Hey,

Why don't you change it yourself?

Personnaly I think its one of the easiest jobs you can do on a motorcycle Thumbs Up Its a neccesity on any bike you have so its worth learning how to do it now Thumbs Up

Cheers,
Shaun.


Yeah I know it is easy, however I have yet to find a manual that tells me how to do this. The only manual available for this bike is the official Honda one and that costs rather a lot as you can imagine! Shocked
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

0ddball
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:52 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unscrew old filter. screw on new one.
Undo drain plug, drain old oil, refit plug.
Fill with new oil.

Surely you can do that without a manual.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

hmmmnz
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 16:54 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

do it your self!!!
there is a large bolt on the left hand side of the casing just behind the gear change mech,
lossen that off and the oil will pour out,
you have no filter on your bike so you don't need to do that,
start pouring oil in the top untill the oil thats coming out the bottom starts to run clear,
then stick the bolt back in and fill to the required level.
it should only cost you 10quid total for the oil, and 10mins of your time.
____________________
the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

veeeffarr
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:03 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a good deal for a 125, it will probably only take a litre(ish) of oil.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Feasty
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:28 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the filter also needs cleaning on an XR, anyone know where the filter is?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

veeeffarr
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:47 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
I believe the filter also needs cleaning on an XR, anyone know where the filter is?


Probably a mesh thimble behind the oil drain cap.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Finglonga
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:03 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmnz wrote:
do it your self!!!
there is a large bolt on the left hand side of the casing just behind the gear change mech,
lossen that off and the oil will pour out,
you have no filter on your bike so you don't need to do that,
start pouring oil in the top untill the oil thats coming out the bottom starts to run clear,
then stick the bolt back in and fill to the required level.
it should only cost you 10quid total for the oil, and 10mins of your time.


Would waste alot of oil doing it that way. Just warm the engine to operating temp(must be warm to thin the old oil out), then drain the oil as above then lob the bolt back in and fill to correct level. Job done.[/u]
____________________
Andy Sez....
F.Y.Y.F.F.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

hmmmnz
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:14 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is no filter on a xr125,

i find its sweet as adding the oil and waiting for it to run clear, it must be about 100mls or so before it does, not really a huge waste of oil,
but im sure he'll do as he pleases and get someone to do it for him. Mr. Green
____________________
the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

element
World Chat Champion



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:58 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
hmmmnz wrote:
do it your self!!!
there is a large bolt on the left hand side of the casing just behind the gear change mech,
lossen that off and the oil will pour out,
you have no filter on your bike so you don't need to do that,
start pouring oil in the top untill the oil thats coming out the bottom starts to run clear,
then stick the bolt back in and fill to the required level.
it should only cost you 10quid total for the oil, and 10mins of your time.


Would waste alot of oil doing it that way. Just warm the engine to operating temp(must be warm to thin the old oil out), then drain the oil as above then lob the bolt back in and fill to correct level. Job done.[/u]


Thats the method I use and thats what my service manual says to do.. Although I occasional let a little oil pour out as I sometimes forget to plug the drain bolt back in Rolling Eyes Mr. Green Anyhow a 1L bottle oil for my bike (125 2-stroke) is enough to waste a bit, fill the engine and still have a little bit let over incase I need topup later.

I always examine the used oil too (weird but thats me) Smile
____________________
04' DT125RE (run-a-bout) // 89' DT125R (rebuilt + supermoto conversion)
SPARES FOR SALE. 2RK TZR // 82 DR125 // DT125R/E .... PM ME...


Last edited by element on 19:04 - 02 Mar 2007; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

doggone
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:01 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When doing it yourself you have a minor problem disposing of the old oil.
Please don't pour it down a drain or put it in the bin.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

element
World Chat Champion



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:05 - 02 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
When doing it yourself you have a minor problem disposing of the old oil.
Please don't pour it down a drain or put it in the bin.


Just save it for other uses Thumbs Up
____________________
04' DT125RE (run-a-bout) // 89' DT125R (rebuilt + supermoto conversion)
SPARES FOR SALE. 2RK TZR // 82 DR125 // DT125R/E .... PM ME...
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

hmmmnz
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:00 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep my becomes my chain lube Very Happy im a tidy kiwi, waste not want not and all that Very Happy
lots of gas stations and your local recycling center have oil recycling depots
so there is absolutly no need what so ever to tip out out oil Very Happy
____________________
the humans are dead
I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

St0rmer66
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:06 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The XR125 has no oil filter? Shocked . I didn't even know that, I've just been topping up my oil gradually as it goes down rather than draining it all too. Is that not a good thing to do then?
____________________
:: Honda XR 125 L ('53) => Kawasaki GPZ 500S ('02) => Suzuki SV650S ('00) => Aprilia RSV-R ('51) ::
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Polarbear
Super Spammer



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:30 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
The XR125 has no oil filter? Shocked . I didn't even know that, I've just been topping up my oil gradually as it goes down rather than draining it all too. Is that not a good thing to do then?


Top your oil up as nessecary but every 1500 miles or so on a small cc bike change it. It gets rid of the products of combustion that blow past the rings and effect the oil. It becomes acidic and just topping up doesn't cure it.

I don't know the XR125 but I am amazed people are saying it doesn't have an oil filter as I have never seen a Jap bike that hasn't, but I have to bow to people that obviously know the bike.

If it hasn't, its absolutley imperative you change the oil regularly to get rid of any particles the filter would have collected if you had one.

I change my oil and filter every 3000 miles, and thats on a large cc, lowly tuned bike.
____________________
Triumph Trophy Launch Edition
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

St0rmer66
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Nov 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:52 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Top your oil up as nessecary but every 1500 miles or so on a small cc bike change it. It gets rid of the products of combustion that blow past the rings and effect the oil. It becomes acidic and just topping up doesn't cure it.

I don't know the XR125 but I am amazed people are saying it doesn't have an oil filter as I have never seen a Jap bike that hasn't, but I have to bow to people that obviously know the bike.

If it hasn't, its absolutley imperative you change the oil regularly to get rid of any particles the filter would have collected if you had one.

I change my oil and filter every 3000 miles, and thats on a large cc, lowly tuned bike.

Well the bikes only got 4.1k miles on it at the moment (and I bought it at 1.6k) so I haven't exactly been running it for ages. The oil would have been changed at its first service but since then it hasn't. Suppose it's due for it now then so I'll get it sorted.
____________________
:: Honda XR 125 L ('53) => Kawasaki GPZ 500S ('02) => Suzuki SV650S ('00) => Aprilia RSV-R ('51) ::
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

eddclarke
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 10 Jul 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:03 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the service intervals for this bike, I had the first one done at about 600miles ive now done about 2800miles.
Is it just standard 10:40 oil ?
Thanks guys
____________________
Honda XR125L 06 ----> Yamaha FZ6 05 + ex SAS XR250 --> VFR800 + XR250r
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Mark312
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:42 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a reasonable price, considering labour charges these days, but really, an oil change is not difficult. You just need to have a go, maybe get a mate who's done an oil change (bike or car) to watch over you as a confidence safety net.
____________________
Currently Moto Guzzi 750 Strada, Moto Guzzi V35 Florida, previously Honda CB125T, RD250LC, RD80MX
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

The Tot
World Chat Champion



Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:45 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

10W 40 Oil on the XR. Claud changed the oil on my bike in about 10 mins. Seriously, it's a matter of just getting a mate with a torque wrench, some washers and doing it yourself. The XR doesn't have a cartridge filter per se, but what it does have is a filter screen just after the sump bolt. It's very easy to do and requires no experties. Just like unzipping your trousers, taking a piss, zipping back up and having a drink. No complications of oil fitlers - so you are getting conned of 20 quid. You do need only 0.8 or 0.9l of oil on the XR IIRC.
____________________
The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
Never argue with autism
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

doggone
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:14 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
The XR doesn't have a cartridge filter per se, but what it does have is a filter screen just after the sump bolt


Honda CB250RS my first bike was like that.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

slj23
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 10 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:30 - 03 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i need to do an oil change on my bandit,change of filter to,is there a product out there to flush the engine out before putting in new oil,sorry for the hi-jack.
____________________
'isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to beleif that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?'
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

SoND
World Chat Champion



Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:01 - 04 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:
Unscrew old filter. screw on new one.
Undo drain plug, drain old oil, refit plug.
Fill with new oil.

Surely you can do that without a manual.


Eh?

You always change your oil like that?
____________________
Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister."
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Spoon261
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 21 Feb 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:46 - 04 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really is very easy.

Things that help.

get a spanner to fit the drain plug.

Any bowl to collect the used oil, 2 litre ice-cream tubs are often handy.

A funnel often helps to pour new oil in the bike, I got normal kitchen ones, I used a small one since it fitted best.

An old rag or towel under the bike just in case you spill a bit of oil.

Any rubber gloves to protect your hands from oil, but make sure you still have lots of control and feeling if you do use them. The thinner the better.

Just remember to warm the bike up before draining the oil, the oil needs to be warm to drain out the bike properly, this is in all instruction books for all engines including lawn mowers.

When you refill with new oil, when full, start the engine up for a couple of minutes (make sure the oil filler cap is on first). Then switch off and wait a few minutes and then recheck the oil level, put more oil in if required.

The above rules work for any engine, even lawn mowers, unless they are 2 strokes which burn oil instead of oil that you change.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

Feasty
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:14 - 05 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I got the oil done, only took 'em 15mins and I do feel a bit daft but that's that done properly for the next 1500 miles... Very Happy

I think by reading this whole thread you can see why I'm unsure about the filter though. Shocked
Some say it doesn't have one, some say it just needs unscrewing and replacing with a new one, others say it's behind the drain screw... Rolling Eyes and you wonder why I'd rather get a shop to do it!! Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 19 years, 84 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.24 Sec - Server Load: 0.54 - MySQL Queries: 15 - Page Size: 133.54 Kb