Doctor's order not to drive...?!?

[alliamc]

I have a friend who fainted at work twice within 4months having viewed things of a gruesome nature. Now their workplace has decided to check they don't have epilepsy, despite it being a simple faint (5 nurses of 6 vouch for that, 1 dippy one said it might be epilepsy) because one nurse said it could be epilepsy it is policy to get it checked out.

Said friend went to the work doc and the doc has advised against riding/driving/operating heavy machinery until a neurologist gives them a clear bill of health (with no epilepsy).

If it is advised, does that mean it is illegal for that person to drive, or is it simply advice?


PS. A different friend was off the road for 3 months waiting for the same tests to be done, my other friend does not want to wait that long! (understandably)
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[Ariel Badger]

Works croaker covering his arse. Ignore him as far as riding goes but if the company ask him to drive or operate machinary say "no, your quack told me not to".
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[Colin G]

If a doc has told them not to drive, and they are caught driving by the police, then they can be prosecuted for it, as the information is passed on to the DVLA.

I know this, i had it happen to me last year (wasn't allowed to drive for 6 months) due to a series of fainting attacks in a matter of weeks.
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[Type_Mo]

i say your friend should get checked out by another doc privetly.

and find out if there allowed to go pillion then someone else can take them on the bike
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[Ariel Badger]

He is advised not to drive not ordered. My Doctor has advised me not to ride as my hip injury is aggravated by the kick-starter, I told him to bugger off, we both laughed about it. The DVLA were in no way involved.
If I were your homeboy I would either contact the DVLA or wait until they send you a notice that you are not able to ride due to medical reasons. I believe they actually revoke your licence.
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[alliamc]

I've heard mixed responses from people. One person said if you are advised by a doctor not to drive it's a as good as saying your insurance is now void because you've been told not to drive, and if you have an accident your insruance company can say you shouldn't have been on the road anyway.

Someone else said that because the information is confidential, a doctor cannot inform the DVLA, therefore you have to do it. But once you are cleared it takes them ages to reinstate your license.

It seems unfair, considering my ex got a 3 month ban for no tax or insurance and then 2nd time he got caught (spaz! lied and said he was insured to me!), it seems like being punished having done nothing wrong. Yes it's for their safety, but they fainted!!

Someone else has said drive anyway, the police won't have a record and if you don't report it to the DVLA then they won't know, and the chance of the police checking if you are stopped is very slim (unless you're stupid enough to admit it to them).

That said, do we have any traffic coppers on here that could verify that?
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[trevoriv]

If it's not been declared to the DVLA then it's just an advisory. A Doctor has the right to pass medical information on to the DVLA and as such the DVLA will take the necessary action such as revoking your license. You should get a notification from both your Doctor and the DVLA informaing you that special terms have been applied to your license.

An Insurance company will not approach your Doctor nor have the right to view medical records without getting approval from the courts which would take exceptional circumstances. Insurance companies will only check the DVLA, however if they find out that a known medical condition caused an accident and the DVLA were not informed then technically your Insurance is void.

All in all if the Doctor just said it in passing then it's an advisory. The Doctor should make it pretty clear as to whether it's an advisory or an instruction to be honest.

[Type_Mo]

i just re-read this and realised im goin on about bikes when its about cars

you told me about this earlier alliamc but you didnt mention if your friend had a bike or car.

but my advice would still be the same. Get checked out by local GP if possible?

and get a friend or family member to give them a lift
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[alliamc]

[Finglonga]

[Whosthedaddy]

[veeeffarr]

Simple question but why doesn't your friend just ask their doctor again? You're not getting a straight answer here

[alliamc]

[LustyLew]

I personally wouldn't trust what the NHS say anyway...

Got told there's nothing wrong with me while I have similar symptoms... Now I have to start the whole process again!
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[trevoriv]

[alliamc]

[Type_Mo]

[steveh]

I got a welding flash the other day, woke up at 6am in screaming pain, went to the hospital and they checked me out, i hadnt damaged my eyes, just my short vision had a white haze around it.. the doctor there told me not to drive, i arrived on my bike..
I still drove around after it, my vision was totaly fine, just felt like i had a dirty visor.

But thats somthing that heals in about 36 hours, id stay off the road if it was seriose.


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[alliamc]

Right, final order is: Have to inform DVLA or run the risk of a £1000 fine and insurance will be void due to being assessed by a medical professional, to disagree with them you would have to be a neurologist.

11 week waiting list... then 7weeks for an MRI... may as well sell the bike. BUPA costs over £1000, does anyone know any other companies that offer private medical care other than BUPA?
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[Whosthedaddy]

If you look at the form to complete for submitting your licence due to ill health, it asks for a diagnosis. No diagnosis has been made.

https://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/medical/aagv1.pdf

Chapter 1

Scroll down past epilepsy as this has not been diagnosed yet , a simple syncopal episode suggests cessation of driving for 4 weeks, if waiting for investigations then a little longer.
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