Wheelying the 400.

[MementoMori]

Just been out for a quick blat around the countryside and what have you, and with there being no one around I took up the opportunity to try and pop the front wheel.

Must have tried... 10/15 times but just managed to load the rear and lighten the front a tad. If the wheel did leave the ground, it was only by a handful of millimetres.

My technique:

1st gear, about 8/9 revs, clutch in and out quicker than you can say 'I'm a bellend" with quick blip of the throttle as I dump the clutch. Probably could have done with bouncing the forks a bit but this detail seemed to have slipped my mind at the time.

As I got more and more used to the bike's reactions (which weren't much to be fair ) I increased the amount of revs and the amount of throttle I gave it when dumping the clutch.

Still achieving pretty much naff all, other than the obvious surge of power and revs.

So where was I going wrong? I'm hoping some of you more experienced wheelie nuts will be able to offer up some advice to a n00b like me.

The bike's an NC30 by the way. A sexual and immaculate one at that. I have been told from one guy that these bikes are impossible to wheelie, yet reassured by a crazy racer that they will with practice.

So any wheelie nuts with experience of lifting an NC30 on to its back wheel are in this case, highly sought after.

In other news, I was putting my gloves back on after filling up at the garage and this teenage couple starting glancing in my direction in a cheeky and annoying way. So yeah, they did that a couple of times but the third time, the girl looked back to find me glaring right at her (with my helmet and stuff on cos it's scarier) and her smile just completely dropped and she turned around so quick. Hahaha, it was awesome. And I checked that I didn't have poo on my head or anything when I got home so god knows what they found so amusing. Other than my hot, juicy hump.
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The tiger who came for a pint

[Groove]

Pull away atabout 3/4k revs then do it

Also make sure your not unintentionaly leaning over the front
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[MementoMori]

[Pete.]

Don't have too much fuel in the tank, but really if you are determined to learn then down-gear the bike it will be much easier to control and cheaper on clutch plates too.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[G]

I've been wheelying my 33hp FX400.
For that I need to get my weight further back (half sitting on the pillion seat), go along at maybe 10mph, then clutch in, rev to the redline and dump the clutch at the redline.

Have to get it decently high to keep it up and it comes down too hard because there's no revs left to ease it down.

Don't suggest you try that though, as you should have around twice the power of my bike.

I have wheelied standard and down geared NC30s without a problem. Down gearing does help (and makes sense on track as well), but isn't required.
I may pull the throttle on as I let go off the clutch on some bikes, but wouldn't describe it as a 'blip'. I'd start at a few less revs then work the revs used when dumping it up - while not as bad as my FX, they do need to be pretty high, still.
Do make sure you 'dump' the clutch, not let it out quickly.

[MementoMori]

Alright, cheers.

So, instead of blipping the throttle and keeping the revs low, it would be more productive to go along at higher revs (obviously having worked up to them), forget blipping and just dump the clutch.

I do need to start sitting right back in the seat. I have a tendency to hug the tank which needs to stop anyway.

I guess it would make sense to start getting a feel for this technique at maybe 7k and work up.

With regards to downgearing, I currently have a smaller front sprocket waiting to be fitted. Just gotta get a c-spanner.
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The tiger who came for a pint

[The Tot]

Luke used to have the innate ability to hoist any old NC30 onto the rear wheels with relative ease it seems? Have a trundle about for his pics cos they all look cool.
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[G]

Sorry, I think maybe there was a bit of confusion on each side.

You want to be going along at lower revs, then open up the throttle as you pull the clutch in and let go with the throttle still open.

'Blipping' to me suggests opening the throttle, then closing it again, while you want to keep it open.

Unfortunately it's not an ideal bike to start on with standard gearing as while it will come up, you need to get it highish to keep it up.

[MementoMori]

Oh right yeah, sorry, I understand that.

Yeah I was closing the throttle, so will keep it open when clutching it and begin at lower revs.

I'll be happy just to get the front wheel off the ground, even for a short while until I can fund the habit further with an old hack of some kind.

Thanks again, I appreciate it.


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The tiger who came for a pint

[Gti]

What speed are you going at? Try popping it from 10-15mph and don't be afraid to give it some throttle, it won't come up as much as you think it would (unless you redline it ).
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[M]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

You want to talk to LukeVFR, he's the NC30 wheelie pro!
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