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scorps
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: garage air machines Reply with quote

i give up these new digital air pressure hoses will not fit my bike is this common to all bikes or just mine which is a gixer
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean not fit ?

All valves are still the same or do you mean the ahgle that it's at ?

Anyway, buy a foot pump so you can do your tyres before you go out. Less than a tenner, money well spent.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: the angle Reply with quote

ive got a air compressor /battery charger thing at home but its broke so best get a foot pump then
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: Re: the angle Reply with quote

Most bikes it's hassle to get garage pressure lines on.

A very sensible 'standard' mod the 675 has is 90 degree valves. You can get them aftermarket, and can get adaptors that plug into your normal valves, but I'd be slightly iffy about using the latter if you doing high speeds.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 90degree valves on my sports bikes that need them including my three GSXR's. Strangely I also sell them as well as the adaptors.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 20 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Foot pump for at home and one of these for out and about.



https://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=90TV
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grav wrote:
Foot pump for at home and one of these for out and about.



https://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=90TV


Great invention i keep one under my seat,dont ride with it fited though it may well upset the wheel balance
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grav wrote:
Foot pump for at home and one of these for out and about.



https://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=90TV


Cheers for the link dude. I sell those for £2.20 Cool Add the cost of an envelope and stamp and I'm still cheaper.
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There rubbish, because..

A. When your tyres warm the pressures can differ 2/3 psi, enough to make a big handling difference on most they should be done from cold

B. Most are hidiously out of calibration, only worth using if you also had a digi gauge with you..

All in all, unless you have a puncture there feckin useless..
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with mr.z, buy yourself a decent tyre inflator for home. It should be something you use quite often and you don't get some hammered piece of crap that a load of monkeys have had their hands on. It's also beneficial not to ride to the place to put air into warm tyres. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pissed me off when I had a slow puncture and needed to top the tire up to get it to the garage that when I tried to connect the air hose onto the valve it wouldn't reach. Rather than those 90 degree adapters, is there a flexible hose version with a valve in the top? I want to be able to just screw the adapter on, fill the tire then remove it and ride away.

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PostPosted: 14:55 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

krebsy wrote:
Rather than those 90 degree adapters, is there a flexible hose version with a valve in the top? I want to be able to just screw the adapter on, fill the tire then remove it and ride away.

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No but there are 45 and 90 degree valves which get rid of the need for adaptors.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will have to get some. Surely either the air machine makers or the tire fitters are missing a trick here... make a machine with a flexible hose or fit angled valves when you fit a new tire....

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PostPosted: 16:53 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

krebsy wrote:
Will have to get some. Surely either the air machine makers or the tire fitters are missing a trick here... make a machine with a flexible hose or fit angled valves when you fit a new tire....

K.


Flexible hose + push on valve = flat tyre. Think about it.

Have you ever asked for angled valves?


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PostPosted: 17:02 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never thought about angled valves to be honest. Will pick up some of those brass 90 degree adapters or maybe just one. All I'll need to do is screw the thing onto the standard valve prior to topping up then remove it later.

If the short flexible hose adapter had a valve at the top and a screw threaded air hose fit at the bottom then you wouldn't get a flat. You'd only stick the thing on anyway when you were filling up and it'd screw on like a standard valve cap...

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PostPosted: 17:44 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

krebsy wrote:
You'd only stick the thing on anyway when you were filling up and it'd screw on like a standard valve cap...

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PostPosted: 18:14 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't the flexible hoses flap around and rip the valve out?
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Wouldn't the flexible hoses flap around and rip the valve out?


How do you push a garage airline onto a flexible tube, hold it in place and pump air?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Wouldn't the flexible hoses flap around and rip the valve out?


How do you push a garage airline onto a flexible tube, hold it in place and pump air?


With my willy usually
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 21 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.z wrote:
There rubbish, because..

A. When your tyres warm the pressures can differ 2/3 psi, enough to make a big handling difference on most they should be done from cold

B. Most are hidiously out of calibration, only worth using if you also had a digi gauge with you..

All in all, unless you have a puncture there feckin useless..


The Digital ones are accurate to within 0.5psi, so more accurate than the hand held ones.

It's the analog ones that are usually miles out. You should be ok with the digital ones. Just buy a foot pump though, much easier.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 22 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a footpump, it was an ok one, the handle snapped when trying to pump my rear tire.

About angled valves, not the adaptors but fitted valves, would they add any extra weight that might fuckup the wheel balancing?
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 22 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just run the line, throug the top of the wheel, past the disk and down your spokes (easyer if its a 3 spoke wheel) And down to the valve.

thats how i do mine, never had a problem.
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PostPosted: 03:03 - 22 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having a compatiotion trials bike, I run the back tyre at about 3-5psi and the front at 5-7 depending on the venue/terain, I use a digi one and I can get it down to things like 4 and a half which is really good , I think is was about £5 from some shop like B&Q.
And when only half a PSI can make the diffirence between me fiving a section or cleaning it then its money well spent. As I am trying to come from seccond place in the cheshire champion ship to first this year.Ive done it before and ill do it again ! just wish that tw*t on a fantic would fu*k off Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: 07:08 - 22 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just jamb the garage air pump fitting in a hole somewhere on my bike, bend slightly, pull it out a bit, bend it again, pull it out a bit more, bend it again. That way it don't kink and break by trying to bend it too much in one place, everyone else can still use it and it will always fit my tyre valves and other bikes. You can also bend the tyre valve quite a way over without doing any harm to them.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 22 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
The Digital ones are accurate to within 0.5psi, so more accurate than the hand held ones.

It's the analog ones that are usually miles out. You should be ok with the digital ones. Just buy a foot pump though, much easier.


Quick (educated) thought, the digital air pressure gauges are more precise but that doesn't mean they're any more accurate than an analogue one.
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