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michael j
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: How long does it take for fuel to go off? Reply with quote

I know that fuel can go 'off' but I don't know how long it takes?
Any ideas? Are we talking months or years?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years, if you are intending to leave a bike for a while just put some fuel preservative in the tank to prevent 'gumming' up the carbs. Only costs a fiver or so Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was left for nearly seven months (no additives, just parked up and left). Started second kick Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I've seen it go off in a few months. A lot has to do with how exposed to the air it is. A half empty tank will go off a lot quicker than a brim-full one.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Started and ran a bike on 6-year-old fuel no problems before. As above, it depends on the way it's stored and in what location. Park a black bike outside with little fuel in it and the light elements will be boiled-off by the sun much faster than a covered up bike or one with a full tank. If the Fuel cock is turned off then fuel will evaporate from the bowls over time and leave a gummy varnish.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info.
Theres about 7 litres in a jerry can, been there since my last trackday in September. I'm a tight git so don't want to dispose of it, but don't want the bike to run like a bag of shite at Silverstone on Monday either.
What do you reckon?
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

michael j wrote:
What do you reckon?


If you put it in the bike and the bike doesn't work then the petrol has gone off. HTH Rolling Eyes

How much is new petrol? How much is a carburettor overhaul and a cancelled trackday?
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

skida wrote:
michael j wrote:
What do you reckon?




How much is new petrol? How much is a carburettor overhaul and a cancelled trackday?


Good point, well made Thumbs Up
I'll put it in the wifes car then Wink
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just smell it. Stale petrol smells bloody awfull and not at all like petrol.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wont put petrol in my TLR if its been in the can more than 2 weeks, because it affects the performance , so I just stick it in the car and then by fresh stuff on the day of the comp.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect your very-high-compression trials bike is more susceptible to bad fuel than the avegarge bike engine.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
I suspect your very-high-compression trials bike is more susceptible to bad fuel than the avegarge bike engine.


yer forgot to say that ,also the high octane petrol is better for peformance before any one asks.

A few months (mabey 6 or 7ish ) for the "avarage road bike " the petrol should be fine
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently drained the tank on my ZX6R because it had been in there since Sept....Stuck it in the SP1 so not to waste it Smile

It really depends on conditions, over summer it'll go off alot faster.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

michael j wrote:
Theres about 7 litres in a jerry can


That's about a Lifan tankfull. Give it to Mattspratuk and if is off it will give us mere mortals a chance to keep up with him. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
If the Fuel cock is turned off then fuel will evaporate from the bowls over time and leave a gummy varnish.


So if storing a bike, then it is best to leave the fuel cock set to "on"? Or have I misunderstood what you have said!?
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

tokarev wrote:
Geri wrote:
If the Fuel cock is turned off then fuel will evaporate from the bowls over time and leave a gummy varnish.


So if storing a bike, then it is best to leave the fuel cock set to "on"? Or have I misunderstood what you have said!?


If The fuel cock is left on the bowls will be replenished, but the best thing to do is either use a stabiliser as above of shut off the fuel then drain the float bowls. A long squirt of WD40 down the fuel line afterwards would not hurt (in fact is a must for race fuels which are corrosive).
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bet is to either add fuel stabiliser to the tank and run it through the carbs or switch the fuel off and drain the float bowls.

Most modern bikes have vacuum taps, the fuel tap is 'off' when the engine is switched off anyway, regardless of what it says on the side of the tap.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 23 Mar 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh okay! Thanks guys. Thumbs Up
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