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You still need to pass your test to ride a bike restricted to 33bhp.
I paid 399 for 3 full days of lessons and test included, then it was £90 for CBT and around £35 for theory.
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I did the same thing as above.
The most you can ride on a CBT alone is a 14.6bhp 125.
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| Posted: 13:11 - 03 Apr 2007 Post subject: |
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couldnt imagine having a 33BHP 900 just after passing my CBT.. 
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Hellooo, earth to learners!
if you're under 21 and you pass your test you'll still be restricted to 33bhp.
Over 21 and you can do a DAS which means you can ride any bike.
However these laws are changing soon. I think they're going to be something like:
 You have to spend a year on a bike of 33bhp or less
Then a year on a bike of more than 33bhp but less than 48.8bhp for a year
then you get your full license.
Which I think will reduce accidents, however no one will stick to it as it will be the same as what happens now where the police don't understand the law, so it isn't properly enforced.
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| MarJay wrote: | Hellooo, earth to learners!
if you're under 21 and you pass your test you'll still be restricted to 33bhp.
Over 21 and you can do a DAS which means you can ride any bike.
However these laws are changing soon. I think they're going to be something like:
You have to spend a year on a bike of 33bhp or less
Then a year on a bike of more than 33bhp but less than 48.8bhp for a year
then you get your full license.
Which I think will reduce accidents, however no one will stick to it as it will be the same as what happens now where the police don't understand the law, so it isn't properly enforced. |
Jeeeesus....what exactly is the point of giving someone another 15 bhp after a year. It more bollocks than the current law and that's saying something. Capacity limit please with list of approved bikes from each manufacturer (i.e. 250CC but no KR1's or RGV's etc ). If your bike is not on the list your riding illegally. Simple
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| Quote: | The 3rd European Driving Licence Directive
The 3rd directive is still in draft - officially. The various member counties have all put in their two pennyworth and the Commision has designed a camel that in some way meets the different views of, say, the Swedes (ban all bikes) to the UK (let the second directive stand, that's a big enough headache already). The compromises have been settled and then it goes to the European Parliament late summer 2006 for a final vote. Each member state will then have untill 2011 to implement into "local" law.
The likely scenario for the UK will be :
Age 16 CBT Provisional Moped, Theory and hazard perception test, Off road manouvres test, on road test. Full P licence.
Age 17 CBT Provisional A1 motorcycle, Theory & hazard test. Off road test, on road test using 125cc bike. Full A1 licence. Restricted to 125cc 14 BHP for 2 years.
Age 19 CBT Provisional A2 motorcycle, Theory & hazard test. Off road test, on road test using 33 BHP bike greater than 500cc. Full A2 licence. Restricted to 47 BHP for 2 years.
Age 21 CBT Provisional A motorcycle, Theory & hazard test. Off road test, on road test using 47 BHP bike greater than 600cc. Full A licence.
Unrestricted Direct Access will remain but at age 24 years.
It sounds complicated.... It is complicated.... Look, suppose you are 17 years old and you want a bike licence.
There's 3 steps, at 17, 19, 21 years old.
Each step involves theory, off-road, and on-road tests.
Each step must be taken on a bigger bike than you are currently allowed to ride, and practiced for under Instructor supervision.
A wicked but subtle change (buried in the small print) is the proposed minimum test vehicles. 500cc bikes don't exist (they're 496 or 498). We suspect simple ignorance is the reason why every "learner bike" in existence will be useless from 2011 at huge expense to the public / training industry.
A rather discriminatory effect is that the existing A2 route for learners is abolished. There will be no way for a smaller or disadvantaged person to get a full licence anymore.(2 years experience on a 33bhp to then upgrade utomatically). The disadvantaged will have to cope with 650cc (?) on test, like it or lump it. For even a new A2 it will be a 550cc (?) bike which will be rather big and heavy for small people in the new off road test.
It'll all get very expensive and difficult. It's forecast that the ultimate reduction in the number of new riders going through the new system will be as much as 60% Yes, less than half as many as at present. Add the cost to Training Centres of dealing with the 2nd directive in 2008, only to have to re-equip for 2011 and less than half as many customers it's doubtfull that there will be many bike shops or training schools surviving anyway.
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but on the positive side 
the law of supply and demand means that with no demand 2nd hand bikes will be much cheaper 
especially older big bikes |
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