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PostPosted: 23:13 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Quick MOT Question Reply with quote

If I take my bike for an MOT, and it passes, can I ride to a Post Office to tax it?

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PostPosted: 23:16 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:16 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:17 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legally, No.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Officially you can ride to a pre-booked MOT and therefore the assumption is you can ride it home. Route is supposed to be direct. So, assuming a post office is on your route home Wink
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told(whilst growing up) you can ride it there, if it fails, ride it home. If it passes, go to nearest post office(not on bike unless ya passing) and get ya tax disc, but you can't legally ride it home if it passes.(can't find a link Sad sorry) but who will know... Cool cept you.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You worry about taking a slightly diverse route home from the MOT shop.
Most people on here do not worry about riding at double the speed limit. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it really make that much of a difference to be honest Toby? Im sure ive read that you have 3 points on your licsense due to speeding? but your worried about riding to the post office..

If the worst happens, simply explain that you were going to the post office to tax your vehicle and you have just left the MOT station, Im sure no one will really mind or bat an eyelid about it to be fair.
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 10 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

RI_HA wrote:
Does it really make that much of a difference to be honest Toby? Im sure ive read that you have 3 points on your licsense due to speeding? but your worried about riding to the post office..

If the worst happens, simply explain that you were going to the post office to tax your vehicle and you have just left the MOT station, Im sure no one will really mind or bat an eyelid about it to be fair.


What's having 3 points got to do with it? :/
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
RI_HA wrote:
Does it really make that much of a difference to be honest Toby? Im sure ive read that you have 3 points on your licsense due to speeding? but your worried about riding to the post office..

If the worst happens, simply explain that you were going to the post office to tax your vehicle and you have just left the MOT station, Im sure no one will really mind or bat an eyelid about it to be fair.


What's having 3 points got to do with it? :/


Breaking a speeding law would entitle you to have three points, why bother regarding a tax disc?
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're bothered after it passes ride it straight home. Ask when the computer MOT will be uploaded, sometimes it's a few hours, usually it's next day. Then just get the tax online (search on here or google for the link, something like https://www.dvla.gov.uk, or click here) and then if stopped it's in the post.

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PostPosted: 00:14 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the highly unlikely event that you are stopped, you'll be able to show the copper your shiny new MOT certificate and tell him you're on the way to the post office to tax it.

The coppers don't give a shite about tax these days anyway, the all-seeing DVLA computer takes care of that.

If you were to be done by an ANPR camera, it doesn't matter because you'll have a valid tax disc for that day to wave in their face anyway. Pretty sure the camera can't tell if you are on the way back having just bought one ten minutes previously.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Breaking a speeding law would entitle you to have three points, why bother regarding a tax disc?


Because getting my three points wasn't a particularly nice experience, and I don't want to run into the police again?

As they said, ignorance is no excuse, hence the question.

Is that ok?

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PostPosted: 11:19 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
and I don't want to run into the police again?


Then walk to the post office and don't risk it. Wink
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If you were to be done by an ANPR camera, it doesn't matter because you'll have a valid tax disc for that day to wave in their face anyway. Pretty sure the camera can't tell if you are on the way back having just bought one ten minutes previously.


I can just see it now- he'll be riding to the post office to get his new tax disc, put two fingers up to the ANPR camera that is linked to the DVLA database, only to arrive at the post office and find it is Wednesday - half day closing!!! (Well only if you still live in an 'old fashioned' village). Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
If you were to be done by an ANPR camera, it doesn't matter because you'll have a valid tax disc for that day to wave in their face anyway. Pretty sure the camera can't tell if you are on the way back having just bought one ten minutes previously.


I can just see it now- he'll be riding to the post office to get his new tax disc, put two fingers up to the ANPR camera that is linked to the DVLA database, only to arrive at the post office and find it is Wednesday - half day closing!!! (Well only if you still live in an 'old fashioned' village). Very Happy


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PostPosted: 13:11 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taken cars halfway across the country and back - legally - to get MoTs. (Actually the cars needed to move halfway across the Country and didn't have valid MoT's so tests near the destination were booked for them)


There is no requirement in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 for the MoT station to be the closest one to the vehicles place of residence or for the route from/to the MoT station to be the most direct.

So yes, if you have your MoT and want to get a Tax Disc that day there is nothing wrong with you stopping on your way home and purchasing one.

While it may not be within the spirit of the law it is certainly within the letter of the law.

Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 (c.22) Schedule 2 Section 22 Sub section 1 wrote:

(b) Bringing it away from a compulsory test


As you can see there is no requirement at all in the law for a particular route or that the journey away from the Test Centre be made without brief stops.

(Overnight stops might be pushing the boundry of what is reasonable)
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
I've taken cars halfway across the country and back - legally - to get MoTs. (Actually the cars needed to move halfway across the Country and didn't have valid MoT's so tests near the destination were booked for them)

There is no requirement in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 for the MoT station to be the closest one to the vehicles place of residence or for the route from/to the MoT station to be the most direct.

Well you are probably technically right, but I wouldn't want to be the one to stand up in court and attempt to use this as my defence.

Besides I think there may be a slight contradiction in your arguments as you went on to say...

Kal wrote:



So yes, if you have your MoT and want to get a Tax Disc that day there is nothing wrong with you stopping on your way home and purchasing one.

While it may not be within the spirit of the law it is certainly within the letter of the law.
As you can see there is no requirement at all in the law for a particular route or that the journey away from the Test Centre be made without brief stops.

(Overnight stops might be pushing the boundry of what is reasonable)

Do you not think that taking the vehicle 'halfway across the country' for an MOT would not be thought of as being unreasonable? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 11 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. The MoT station was in the City I grew up in and was a Mechanic I could trust. It was done in one trip to a prebooked appointment, not a problem in the world.

As I said it is down to the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law and so a technicality but the law works on the letter of the law not the spirit of it.

Last year we had to get my partners car to Autoglass in Nottingham and back to Leicester again after it failed its MoT on the windscreen. The only place I could get it booked into for an appointment the next day was Autoglass in Nottingham. Not a problem in world - completely legal.

An overnight break in a journey could be argued to make it two journeys rather than one if you get me. Which would make the second leg illegal.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 12 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I accidentally got lost on my way home from the MOT station, so I went into the Post Office to ask for directions.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 12 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

just do it!

you aint gonna get pulled (unless riding dodgy) & in VERY UNLIKELY event you do im sure they will understand if not then you would have to put it down to the unluckist day of your LIFE!

5/0 pull you then 5/0 do you aswell even tho you showed them fresh MOT paper & on way to tax it.............. Tut Tut NO WAY your fine!!!

just go Wink

or worse case scenerio...LEG IT FROM Police Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 12 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:39 - 12 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
I've taken cars halfway across the country and back - legally - to get MoTs. (Actually the cars needed to move halfway across the Country and didn't have valid MoT's so tests near the destination were booked for them)


There is no requirement in the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 for the MoT station to be the closest one to the vehicles place of residence or for the route from/to the MoT station to be the most direct.


I was told the other day that I wasnt able to ride back from Leicester to home (which is a 2/2 and half hour trip, hardly overnight) by several members of the forum. Are you sure you are right?
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 12 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of the amendments to VERA in the last thirteen years have changed the wording to the section quoted above, so there is no location or locality requirement for the MoT station you are attending, just that you are booked in for an MoT before you start your journey or returning from one.

Personally I have done it with several cars and the Trike. What I have done is print off schedule two of VERA 1994 to show any Police Officers should I be stopped.

Actually the trike is a good example of why there is no legislation on where you should go for an MoT as most stations cannot/willnot test it and I have to travel some distance.

The only thing you need to be aware of is if your vehicle is defective in steering, braking or structually etc then the Police can say it is not fit to be on the road.

If you don't want to take the Bike North and it needs MoT/work you aren't happy to do etc then I can recomend Lesters Motorcycles on Beatrice Road. I've been going there for a while.

Alternatively, now I've seen just how often you post in the workshop forum, if you just need somewhere out of the road to work for a day then me or my partner are usually in and can be relied upon to make at least the occasional cup of tea.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 13 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a very kind offer mate. Im actually back home now and I got the bike through MOT, working on it outside my halls. I went to centre garage, on Gwendolen road for the MOT. They seemed to be OK, not as leanient as the station I use back home, but at least I got an MOT test actually done rather than the bike parked up round the back for half an hour while they print a pass cert off. Laughing It failed the first time on too much play in the rear shock linkages, some strips of fosters cans in the bushes and it was passed the following day. Very Happy
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