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Yoko
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Snaping bolts and screws Reply with quote

I was messing with an old outboard at the weekend and while taking the lower part off (where the propeller goes) I easily snapped 4 of the 6 bolts!

Not really a huge problem as it’s a piece of old shit and will never run again any way.

But how do you avoid this happening? The nut snapped pretty easily and when I put force on the spanner it moved which made me think its starting to undo then it just went very lose and low and behold had snapped.

Would be a right bastard should this happen on a motorbike engine or something!
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if they snapped that easily, they were going to do it no matter what you did.

Have a look at the broken ends and see how much actual solid metal is left, I suspect not a lot.
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PostPosted: 06:24 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Re: Snaping bolts and screws Reply with quote

Yoko wrote:
But how do you avoid this happening?

You develope a calibrated elbow.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

...or squirt in WD40 the night before, give it a wack with a hammer & chisel then try turning it ever-so-slightly the wrong way before the main attempt. It does sound like it was shagged already though...
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres quite a few tricks that can be done to help you stop shearing bolts, the ones I've used are:

Soaking it in penetrating oil, or wd40 if you don't have any, and leaving it over night - as previously mentioned.

Tighten the bolt up a small amount then undo a little, keep repeating to loosen it up, might take a while but eventually it will free up.

Hit the bolt across its length, usually using a copper bar - not exactly sure why this works but in my expirences it has lol.

To prevent it happening each time you leave bolts in for a while, put some oil on the end of the thread before you go to screw them back in.

If its two different metals like previously mentioned you're in for a hard time I'm afraid as if they're left together for a long time it's possible for them to bond together making them very difficult to undo Neutral
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You missed roasting the hell out of them with a blowlamp (until the metal is hot enough to vapourise a drop of oil on contact).

You can also get freeze and release spray which does a similar thing, the rapid expansion/contraction of the metals in response to extremes of temperature breaks any adhesion that has formed between them.

This works particularly well with dissimilar metals which expand and contract at different rates.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 19 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You missed roasting the hell out of them with a blowlamp (until the metal is hot enough to vapourise a drop of oil on contact).


Ah yes I did sorry, heating it up causes it to expand and grip the threads a bit better, usually use oxy-asthetylene but anything with a bit of heat should be good for it.

Theres a problem where you can cause the metal to be more brittle though, increasing the chances of snapping it so I wouldn't go to this much effort unless it was a last resort anyway Exclamation

If you do happen to snap one off though, you're gona have to drill it out, use smaller pilot holes first and make sure you're drilling down the exact middle, then retap the threads on the hole once you've drilled it out and you should be good to put a new bolt on.
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