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craigs23
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Tyre Pressures Reply with quote

Little query here.

The New CB1's handling has been fantastic - tweaked suspension by a pro and new(ish) GPR100 tyres. I've been carving up corners with ease - just a slight feels-like-the-front-end's-going to wash (at peg scraping lean, 3mm or so from the edge of the front tyre) led me to check the pressures.

36psi rear, just under 20psi front!

I pumped the front tyre up to 33psi (around standard)

The front end's a lot sharper, turns from side to side with less input and smoother whilst doing so - also on pull aways.

However, the bike is less confidence inspiring, feeling too twitchy and not allowing me to use anywhere near the same lean/corner speeds...

Get used to it, or let some air out to a compromised pressure?

Was the wash-out feeling attributed to tyre wall flex?
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant really help mate, but you give me some details on your suspension setup please? Embarassed
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craigs23
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The previous lady owner's boyfriend is a suspension speciallist. Needless to say, I think he must have been bored one weekend. The spec as quoted from the bike's advert:

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"Shock (LOL) is a customised design (i.e. I designed it especially for this bike and for my other half to ride) and utilises quite a few differing bits from various brands of motorcycles from 1998-2006 (Fireblade shock, Suzuki reservoir...) - wth a 190Nmm Ohlins spring on it performs superbly - and of course, is fully rebuildable/revalveable.

Fork re-design uses the stock 41mm shell casings, with 0.90 springs and some 20mm cartridges from a 1997 CBR600F. It utilises long top out springs (like modern race bikes); with the left fork as rebound, and the right fork as compression (don't stress, this is quite okay), which are adjusted from the top (finger-tip if you like - I used to do it when riding...). I would hand over the oil type and air-gap data to anyone interested....

So, basically, you can adjust comp, rebound and preload at both ends of the bike! Wink (what would you expect!?)"
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame that the expert never bothered to pump the tyre up, might have made more difference than all the other stuff Mr. Green
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craigs23
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect the bike's been sitting for a while (or the previous lady owner didn't have access to such technological marvels such as a footpump).

Or maybe it was deliberately a low pressure....?
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try checking for a slow puncture or air leak at rim or valve. They have a habit of turning into fast punctures.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 17 Apr 2007    Post subject: Re: Tyre Pressures Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
However, the bike is less confidence inspiring, feeling too twitchy and not allowing me to use anywhere near the same lean/corner speeds...

Get used to it, or let some air out to a compromised pressure?


Interesting. I recently pumped my front tyre up as it was bellow standard and have found the exact same thing. I decided to just get used to it and im gradually becoming more confident with my corner speed and prefer the way the bike throws itself over in the corners, much more exciting.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked mine 2 days ago and like yours they were well out. Have now experienced everything you descibe but have decided its just re-adjustment, you'll get more used to it and will be flying round the corners just as I now am. Stick with it, you will adjust to the responsiveness in no time Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Tyre Pressures Reply with quote

The best place to go for tyre pressure information is the tyre manufacturer - see if they have a pressure chart of their web site, or ring their customer services number.

Bridgestone recommend higher pressures for my Fazer (36/40) than Yamaha do.

HTH Smile
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KTM Gordo
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Tyre Pressures Reply with quote

A small change in tyre pressure can make a huge difference to the handling - as you've found out!

The best place to go for tyre pressure information is the tyre manufacturer - see if they have a pressure chart on their web site, or ring their customer services number.

Bridgestone recommend higher pressures for my Fazer (36/40) than Yamaha do.

HTH Smile
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craigs23
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd pumped the tyre up to the rec. spec. in the manual - not sure if Dunlop would know what an NC27 is....

Need to wait til the weekend for a proper test at different levels - andto see whether the tyre's actually deflating on its own accord...
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did you last put air in it? (If never how long have you had it?)
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I got my 2004 R1 the dealer fitted a new OEM rear tyre (Dunlop D218) and both front and rear were inflated to the maximum 42psi so the first thing I did was check on Dunlop's web site and they recommended 36psi for both on my year and model bike and that's how I've kept them.
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craigs23
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 18 Apr 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 25psi I let the front down to felt pretty good on the way home...

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When did you last put air in it? (If never how long have you had it?)


Yesterday, I've had the bike about a week.
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