VFR400 NC30

[WildGoose]

silly me, ive fallen in love with it, that single sided swingarm on the back wheel is just too good looking

would i have any chance at insuring one of these at 18 with 2 years NCB, or should i just stick with teh NSR plan, and maybe get the NSR a bit earlier

also how easy is it to get parts for the NC30 when they go wrong, as they arent in production any more?

[Korn]

You'd be able to insure an nc30 at 18 with 2 years NCB for around £500 quid TPFT depending on your postcode. Parts are easy to come by and fairly cheap, they're still making them over there in the land of the rising sun, but in fairly low numbers. Also you've got very little chance of the nc30 engine going wrong, they've got a reputation for being bomb proof

[TiN]

Are you sure that you can wait that long mate?...it's over a year innit?

Tin

[G]

You could allways a get a cheap NSR (>£1000), which shouldn't lose so much in resale value, then get the NC30... the experience will probably be good instead of jumping straight onto a fast spoerts bike.

[WildGoose]

i dont really have a choice but to wait

i dont want to get a bike i dont want

and i wanna stay away from 2 strokes ive decided, and small capacity, i wanna restrict a reasonable size, so i can actually go places on it

if i get an NSR im stuck to A roads in this country

the NC30 might be a bit of a leap, so i guess its back to the drawing board

im still thinking about the GPZ

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A derestricted NSR does 100mph & 0-60 in 6 secs... that's good enough for motorways (and A roads are more fun anyway :) ) ..... Iwas just suggesting that having a 125 would be better than nothing.

[WildGoose]

you seriously reckon i could get one for less than a grand?

cos that would be ideal, as i really dont wanna splash out a lot on a first bike

[McJamweasel]

You can pick up the RK's for less than a grand. The unfaired F is slightly cheaper and theres no expensive plastics to replace.
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[Keen]

aren't the RK's the import? stay away from them mate......

[G]

You can UK RKs and imported RKs... Make sure you get a test ride, if it will do 90-100 it's fine, if it wont go over 75-85 and it an import, *avoid*.

You could try adtrader or biketrader... note some are actually NS125Rs, the older model (pre 91 though I think the new model NSR125R started in 89/90)... though the NS isn't a bad bike either and can be picked up pretty cheaply.

[WildGoose]

when ive got the money, id like one of you guys to come with me, if anyone is up for that

i would pay you of course, but i'll mention again closer the time

[G]

I don't mind coming and having a look at a bike in my area/not too far... not bothered about money, but no guarentees I won't miss anything.

[Annabella]

Get an NSR then move up to an NC30 - you'd be surprised how nippy the NSRs are to start with. That way you're going to get used to handling a bike, then you're less likely to trash the beautiful NC (mmmm my favourite).

Mine's an RK and is NOT an import (YES YOU THE GUY AT WILEYS IT IS NOT AN IMPORT!!) and will do 100. I got it for a bargainous £400. And like McJam said - the F's are even cheaper.

[WildGoose]

i think im just gonna go with teh GPZ, ive seen them around, they sound great, they are reliable, and cost the same as a second hand NSR, i just have this feeling, that when i get the NSR i will want something bigger

the GPZ will be restricted, but at least when the 2 years is up, i will have it to derestrict, and not have to get another bike, apparently its not a big jump, after passing your test, and is ideal as a first big bike

i mean the NSR looks better, but i just dont think its practical in the long run, i really dont

[Annabella]

An NSR will retain it's value and you will not ever have any problems selling it if you do decide to change bikes. Its not like a commitment. Bear that in mind, but at the end of the day - we're going to be biased and want you to have the NSR! You go for what you want.

Two strokes are good for first bikes - they're powerful, and easy to fix. Plus the NSR is very reliable. Don't really have nay experiance of GPZ. Whatever you get mate - enjoy it!

[WildGoose]

well, its takes me a long time, to save up money, so i want to have something that is goin to last me, im expecting to be at uni for four years at the end of A levels, so im gonna be poor then, i want something that will keep me amused for that time,

i also have plans to go riding abroad, and an NSR wont do that comfortably, but the GPZ will, the insurance is only slightly more than the NSR, but as i said, if i get the NSR, i will go out and buy anothr copy of WHAT BIKE a few weeks later, looking for the next one

if i hadnt of got the scoot, i would have waited till 17 and got the NSR then, but as it turned out, i got the scoot, so now im gonna skip a step, and miss out the 2 strokes

[Annabella]

Yea, I'm stuck with my baby for teh next three/four years while I'm at uni... Luckily with this gap year dealy I've been able to save up lots of money and have enough to purchase the illicit NC30 if I really have to while i'm there. Just out of general interest what Uni you planning to go to? What to read?

[WildGoose]

well at this stage im un decided, but id love to be a student in london, i reckon it would be a wicked place to be a student, the london uni's are respectable as well

im not sure what i want to read, maybe economics, but im dropping maths at AS level, so thats gonna limit my options,

but as long as im in london doin something i enjoy it doesnt matter, then i will still be able to go to box hill and chelsea bridge

[Keen]

have you thought about the insurance on a 500 goose? could be high compared to an NSR.

[Stevo]

Agreed, the GPZ500 is a good bike. fastest 500 twin 128-130mph, and it handles well enough. Only shortcomings are the finish, its a bit dodgy for winter riding, as the finish can go off rapidly, if you dont look after them. The Horns are in such a crap position, but easy to remount under the fairing, and its a little bit lumpy at low revs, which is fine as it smoothes out nicely from 6k, (typical kawasaki motor eh?) The seat height is low 775mm, so if your over 6'2" then it might not be so comfortable. Basically its the same sort of performance as a 400 sports bike, without the handling, braking or sex appeal. But as a value for money first bike, its a decent choice.

[WildGoose]

im looking at about a grand for the insurance keen, depending on age of the GPZ i get

but thats fine with me, as it will only go down, with time, and cos the bike is relatively cheap 2 grand for a decent one, the price is ok with me

[Viper]

Annabella, what course are you planning to do at Uni?

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