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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Paddock stands - using them on your own Reply with quote

Could I put my GSXR4 on my rear paddock stand on my own, do you think?

It seems lighter to manouevre than my CBR125, and I managed to put that on front and rear stands alone.

But saying that, I am a girl. And have never ridden an R1.

What do you think? Especially colin1 (I hear he's a paddock stand expert).

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PostPosted: 10:00 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the hooks that go under the swing arm on my paddock stand and i do put it up and take it of on my own. However be carefull and make sure they line up properly. once i did it and the arms wernt alined properly, tried to quickly adjust them but the bike went over onto some grass.

All i do i get the stand ready on the bike, hold the bike straight upand then push the stand down (i do this with my foot), would recomend have the handlebars pointing towards you, would have properly saved my bike falling. Removing the stand is easy, just pull the stand up and pull the bike over onto the side stand (make sure its down first).

Pulling the bike over can be bit deceptive as you only really need to pull once the back wheel hits the ground, just use bit of force and you should'nt have a problem.

Never hurts having someone to help, if theres someone near by grab them for a second.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do it with my nsr quite frequently, I only have a side stand so it does make it interesting at times.

First off I make sure my front wheel is pointing straight, this stops the bike turning as you lift it.

Then I make sure the hooks are lined up with the swing arm, I then using the grab rail move my bike to level, and start to push the paddock stand down to lift the bike up.

If it goes wrong, and I have cocked it up a couple of times, I always push the bike left with the hand holding the grab rail, that way it just falls to the side stand and not over onto its right side.

It takes a bit of practice but its not impossible.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy enough, just get the hooks unde and get it reasonably straight. It's a lot more robust than you think. Do be careful when balancing the bike though, make sure you have pressure on the paddock stand to keep the bike upright
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often have to do it, but being a not-too-small bloke, I haven't had many problems - just hold the back of the bike with one hand while using paddock stand with another.

Apparently some people find it easier to raise their bike on the side stand so it's almost vertical by placing a piece of wood under the side stand.

Then you can put it on the paddock stand without taking it off the side stand.
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad this was raised as I have got to use a paddock stand now that I have no centre stand. I'm told that I have to jam on the front brake before attempting to use the rear paddock stand - is this correct?
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're on a slope, it may stop it rolling down the hill. I rarely bother myself.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've mentioned them in various threads but I'm a convert to Abba Stands. They are so easy to use on your own and hold the bike very securely - my old paddock stands weren't anywhere near as stable. Admittedly an Abba stand costs close to £100 but so does 2 paddock stands. I got mine for £50 second hand so they are out there cheap. I use an old car jack on my sump in conjuction with the Abba stand to get the front up.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I've mentioned them in various threads but I'm a convert to Abba Stands. They are so easy to use on your own and hold the bike very securely - my old paddock stands weren't anywhere near as stable. Admittedly an Abba stand costs close to £100 but so does 2 paddock stands. I got mine for £50 second hand so they are out there cheap. I use an old car jack on my sump in conjuction with the Abba stand to get the front up.


Absolutely 100% agree.

Since owning an Abba, I would never consider or use anything else.
So they are a bit more expensive, but worth it and you don't need both rear and front.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like harping on about them but it's one of those things that once you've used one you will never go back Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the Abba stand kudos...as soon as finances permit I'll be getting one. Used to have one (the ex got custody!), wouldn't want to use a "normal" stand any more!
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe wrote:
I've mentioned them in various threads but I'm a convert to Abba Stands. They are so easy to use on your own and hold the bike very securely - my old paddock stands weren't anywhere near as stable. Admittedly an Abba stand costs close to £100 but so does 2 paddock stands. I got mine for £50 second hand so they are out there cheap. I use an old car jack on my sump in conjuction with the Abba stand to get the front up.


Cool. I'm just looking for a stand (never had a bike without centre stand before) and that looks like just the job. Cheers.
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get bobbins, those plastic cup things are crap.
Like G said, i stick a block of wood under the sidestand so the bike almost vertical, i find this makes it easier to get the stand lined up etc.
To get it off the stand, i put the block of wood in front of one of the stand's wheels, sit on the bike, push my heel against the block of wood and push the bike forward(using the front brake to stop it dropping too quickly).
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 04 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an abba stand but most of the time it sits unused - a paddock stand is far more convenient when chain oiling, the abba is useful for actually working on the bike.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree with the abba stand - absolutely amazing bit of kit. Unfortunately I don't have one, I just make use of a friend's!

I only have a rear paddock stand, and tbh once you've got the "knack" it's pretty straightforward. Just be careful and take it slow.
I have the "plastic cup" type - I've got the bobbins fitted on my bike, but the stand was given to me by an ex-biker (who had no need for it), so until this one breaks I see no point in buying another.

With the bike on the side stand I align the left side, then from the rear lift the bike up to the vertical. Check that the right side is correct (if not then put the bike back down and re-adjust), and lift it up.
To get it off, grip the rear of the bike and raise the stand, and as it comes down just ensure it falls to the left - lower it gently onto the sidestand.
Piece of cake!
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

piece of cake
but i wouldnt recommend tying the front brake on.
the bike will move back a couple of inches when you push down on the stand.
can't imagine why youd want the brake on????
and when lowering the back wheel back onto the ground make sure the front wheel is pointing left and hang onto the tailpiece pulling it to the left.
used this method countless times and never had a bike fall over.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

initially i used axle stands under the swingarm as i got em cheap from netto

then i got a paddock stand and used that for a bit

but for my dirt bike ive gone back to using axle stands as its easier

i dont have bobbins or hooks on my paddock stand, so it can be a bit fiddly initially lining it up with the swingarm resting in the bits of the paddock stand

im no expert but would expect somoeone who has been riding a year or so to be able to use a paddock stand by themselves. as such its a bit of an indicator of someones familiarity with bikes

but i guess some people dont need to use a paddock stand, or always have someone on hand to help
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
to be able to use a paddock stand by themselves. as such its a bit of an indicator of someones familiarity with bikes


No, it's an indication of someone's familiarity with paddock stands. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
as such its a bit of an indicator of how fast somebody can ride a bike


Laughing

I can easily put my GSXR600 on a rear paddock stand without assistance. Just balance the bike with your left hand on the pillion strap and position the stand with your right hand. Take up the weight of the bike and then push the stand down. Easy.

Never used an Abba stand so can't comment on them. I would advise against using the sump as a jacking point though. Shocked

How's the new rear tyre Colin?
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 05 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki wrote:
colin1 wrote:
as such its a bit of an indicator of how fast somebody can ride a bike


Laughing



no

misunderstood again

i can use a paddock stand but i dont ride fast

i still think that if someone cant use a paddock stand it could mean that they havnt been into bikes for very long and so shouldnt ride fast

this was the case with someone who had an accident some time ago

the new tyre is quite good but i dont think its quite as good as the tyre i got off you when it was first on

either that or i need to replace my front too.

it doesnt fall into corners quite the same way but then it was quite a while ago, so i could be wrong
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

what r u oan about
r u oan eccys or summit?
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PostPosted: 06:36 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:

i still think that if someone cant use a paddock stand it could mean that they havnt been into bikes for very long and so shouldnt ride fast

this was the case with someone who had an accident some time ago



Don't tell Brunstrom or it will be in the next bike test, The use of a Paddock Stand.

I think it does depend on the size of the bike and it's owner on whether a paddock stand is easy to use or not. My Africa Twin was dead easy to put up on a stand single handed, my Varadero needs a bit more care. Most sports bike for me should be very simple, even if I hadn't been familiar with it. But the ability to use a paddock stand does not make you a safer rider.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
But the ability to use a paddock stand does not make you a safer rider.


I didnt say it does.

It just means you have been around bikes long enough to know how to use one.

This can mean that you have a bit of experience riding a bike too.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It means fuck all Colin.

Having no paddock stand skills doesn't mean you have no bike skills. Maybe you're just not into bike maintenance and get the garage to do everything.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some very fast and skilled racers that have trouble putting a bike onto a paddock stand on their own.
Sadly, it doesn't mean that I'm fasterer than them because I can Sad.
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