How long can Honda keep denying it for?

[Trickypl4]

This has been discussed at great length, especially in the bike mags, but Honda continue to deny there is a problem.....

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6600897.stm
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[tomski_w]

Dude, that's some scary sh!t!!

Maybe the police should think about the equipment the carry, or change the machine to something like a Honda Goldwing so they can ride "two-up" as well!

[Essex_Mike]

this was covered ages ago on the forum, mixed feelings about it from what I remember.
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[Essex_Mike]

blimey, didn't realise how popular this topic is
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[Walloper]

It is just like the arsehole from Renault that BBC Watchdog had in a pinfall/half nelson/sleeper but still refused to admit that the bonnet catches on their Clio is faulty.
Renault are adamant that the fault is not theirs and is a LACK OF MAINTENANCE problem.

I have had loads of cars but never counted the bonnet catch as a vital safety feature.

Honda are doing the same thing.

I am boycotting them now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/reports/transport/transport_20070328.shtml

"28 March 2007
Three times now, Watchdog has reported terrifying stories of Renault Clio II’s bonnets flying open when they’re being driven. Renault has always denied there’s a problem. But now the company’s former press relations manager, Graeme Holt, has come to Watchdog to tell us the inside story about what’s been going on.

Holt has told us Renault is fully aware it has a poorly designed bonnet catch that corrodes over time. But instead of admitting to this it’s chosen to tell us the accidents were the customers’ fault, blaming them for not closing their bonnets properly or maintaining their catches correctly.

But it isn’t mentioned anywhere in the manual or service sheet that you need to maintain the bonnet catch mechanism of the Clio II.

We believed the problem only related to the old Clio II. But Holt has told us the Clio II is still in production, only now it’s called the Clio Campus. It has exactly the same dangerous mechanism as the Clio II, and in a few years time it could also corrode and fail. Last year Renault sold over 17,000 of the Campus.

Renault representative Tim Jackson, director of press and public relations, replied to our reports on the bonnet catch mechanism. Jackson reiterated that any complaint is taken extremely seriously. He explained that both Renault and the Vehicle and Operator Service Agency (VOSA) have concluded that the bonnet catch mechanism on the Renault Clio II has no design or construction defect.

Jackson also stated that, as part of its reassurance plan, Renault has started contacting all Renault Clio II owners, inviting them to take their cars to a Renault dealer to be inspected for free. The firm has also included the maintenance of the catch on the Renault Clio II in its service schedule, so dealers will check the bonnets during routine servicing as it’s done with MOTs.

Regarding our concerns about the Renault Campus, Renault states there are no reports of any problems with this car.

Renault Customer Service: 0800 072 3372. Office hours only."
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[Timmeh]

Going back to the slightly more on-topic; the Honda problem. Anybody who has sat on a police bike will have noticed the generally obvious left-to-right off-balance and tail-heavy feel of them.

It's blatently obvious that hooning it is risking a tank-slap - even unloading the front suspension will start it wobbling. 110mph on any badly balanced bike is risking it - let alone on a Goldwing.

They are so much in need of steering dampers.
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[Stiffler]

It's not a Goldwing btw, it's a Honda Pan-European. And I think I lean towards the "bike is overloaded with equipment" side of things. Although, having said that I don't really know all the facts.

Oh and talking about the Renault Clio bonnet catch, I saw one stopped in the middle lane of the M62 last week, Bonnet up & deformed with front windscreen smashed. It must have just happened and the driver started to edge blindly for the hard shoulder as I rode passed. I thought that there must have been a collision but the more I thought about it I remembered I'd not seen any other damage to the front of the car and no other vehicles involved. It must be a fairly terrifying experience, and I'm glad my mums just changed her car as she's driven a Clio for years.

Tim
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[Villers]

Not trying to detract from the solemnity of the accident and the tragic death of another biker, but....

Having read this statement

[iooi]

[phk6]

i was talking to a traffic cop friend of mine about this and he says its the size of the panniers the cops have on them they create a vortex and lift the rear end of the bike up apparently
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[carvell]

The panniers the police put on them aren't any bigger than the standard issue honda kit, are they?
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