New PC.

[-Savage-]

Let me just start by saying i have little knowledge of todays modern PCs. i lost touch of computers a while ago, when 2Ghz was the forefront of technology. So i ask you, oh gods of useless info. lol

i want to use the pc for gaming, and coursework and the like, but online gaming would be my main fancy.

Right, ive heard of these dual core processors. how good are they compared to a faster single processor? How fast do i really need? how much ram do i need? will i need a graphics card?

i seen this on DELL for £407, does it look like it will do the job? also what speed is the ruddy processor? 4 gHz?
Components
AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core processor 4000+
Genuine Windows® XP Home Edition - English
Collect & Return, 1 Year Service only
No Monitor
2048MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x1024] Memory
250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™ cache
128MB ATI® Radeon® X1300 PCI Express graphics card
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black
Accessories
Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
No Speakers
No Floppy Drive
No Modem
No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English
No digital photo sharing or editing software selected.
Also Includes
List D05C15 Dimension C521
C521 English Documentation with UK Power Cord
DHS Inspiron / Dimension Flyer
Dimension Order - UK
No Secure Data Software
Collect & Return, 1 Year Service only
Dell Internet Order.
Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[GodzGift]

Dell Dimension E520 Desktop E4300 Core2Duo, £ 329. 07

p.s. remember to select the 1 year collect and return

Components
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4300 Processor (1.80GHz, 800MHz, 2MB)
English Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Basic
Collect & Return, 1 Year Service only
Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (SE197FP) - UK/Irish
2048MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x1024] Memory
250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™ cache
Integrated Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3000
16X DVD+/-RW Drive
Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black

you might want to get a graphics card but dont ugrade to it through dell, get one here separately https://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?id=13418

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also check out: https://www.goldenelectronics-online.co.uk

Now thats a PRICE BEATER

[-Savage-]

sorry for the following noob questions, but,,,,,

what speed is the processor? Ghz? does the 1.8ghz add up to 3.6 or something? lol
what size is the RAM?

i have no understanding of the dual core processors at all lol
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[truslack]

That's 2gb of RAM, and no, it doesn't add up to 3.6 but it does more stuff in the same amount of time. If that makes sense!
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)

[-Savage-]

so thats good right? lol
will it run things like games that require hight Mhz processors? like FPS games? halo 2 needs 2ghz processor i think.


also, will vista be installed? or can i install xp on it? iv heard theres lots of problems with vista?

other than that it looks the buisness.

erm just one more thing (im starting to sound like columbo lol)
can i download a movie, and burn it onto dvd and play it on a dvd player?
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[truslack]

Well my processor is a 3800x2 running at 2.1ghz, its never let me down!

It will run your games, remember, Halo 2 requires Windows Vista (I think) and now Dell have given you the option to install XP.

Vista is OK for the average Joe.

And yes, though you need to convert it to DVD format.

Remember kids, downloading movies is illegal!
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)

[-Savage-]

ok, thanks for the advice guys. il have a wee snoop around, but i guess il go for that one

edit just priced that dell Godzgift, works out at £499! bit out of my price range. unless that was a special you saw or something?

on the dell site i put all the components like you had in your list, and it gave me the princely sum of £500 lol
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[lllN30lll]

the dual cored overclock nicely, i've got the Intel e6300 1.86ghz, overclocked it to 2.77ghz at the mo, will be trying to go for 3.5+ghz when new PSU comes
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Turbo R1
CRF450R

[Matt06]

I thought I might add, with the spec posted about without the GFX card, it might not have the slot on the motherboard if its fully intergrated. Wouldnt suprise me with a Dell.

Might be wrong but check it out.

Dont try and overclock a Dell either .
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Current: MT-10, Bandit, Grom, GPZ500
Previous: YBR125, GSXR400, ZXR400, MT-03, NTV650, R6, z750, ZX6R, MT-09

[GodzGift]

[GodzGift]

[-Savage-]

ive found a bit more money, and found a bit of a good deal. il post the specs here when i finally get the dell website to bloody work for me! lol
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[truslack]

This is the bit when there becomes proof that I have a bad eye for a decent computer
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)

[-Savage-]

ok folks here it is, Savos new PC


AMD® Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005 - English
2048MB Dual Channel DDR2 533MHz [2x1024] Memory
eyboaDell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell™ 19" Value Flat Panel (SE197FP) - UK/Irish
256MB nVidia® GeForce® 7300 Turbocache graphics card
250GB (7200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst™ cache
Dell 2 Button USB Scroll Optical Mouse - Black
16x DVD +/- RW Drive
Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
E521 English Documentation with UK Power Cord
Gedis Bundle Reference List D05E15b Dimension E521
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 8.0 - English
Standard Warranty Collect & Return, 1 Year Service only
Hardware Support Collect & Return, 1 Year Service only
Order Information Dimension Order - UK
Money Off Savings Save £50 inc VAT
Dell System Media Kit Resource CD - contains Diagnostics and Drivers
Dell Internet Order Dell Internet Order.
S&P Flyer DHS Inspiron / Dimension Flyer



i cant effing wait now! only problem is im in uni now for a fortnight for the NW200 and then tests, so i wont see my pc until next friday!!! but then OMG il be downloading EVERYthing onto it lol.


btw, i have tiscali broadband, how do i get it onto my new pc? do i need the driver disk? i think iv lost it, can i phone tiscali to get another one?
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[.....]

Same PC as me but I've got a different graphics card. I really like it especially as my old one was a P3 650Mhz with 192MB RAM

Managed to play all games I've tried on full detail no problem but I'm not a big gamer. Runs XP and Vista really well. Enjoy

[GodzGift]

[-Savage-]

i plan to get a few games on her asap, ive a few games ive bought like half life 2, that i cant even play on my computer, so itl be a treat to play them eventually!

i have a USB modem, godzgift, but will i need a driver disk for the new pc?
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[truslack]

[-Savage-]

im not sure what im going to do truslac, im a bit hyper and excited at the moment lol..!!

BTW, will the PC just be delivered to my house, or will they set it up for me as well as i wont be home, my parents should be though
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[GodzGift]

what truslack said or get a ADSL wireless router

https://www.ebuyer.com/UK/cat/Wireless/subcat/ADSL---Broadband-Modems---Wireless-Routers

[truslack]

It will only get delivered, you have to set it up yourself - it aint hard, the cables will only fit in one port

Routers are the way forward, wireless may be best seeing as (I think) you have a laptop? (any luck with whatever computer you were getting clean?)
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)

[-Savage-]

once this PC comes, il put my music and stuff onto it, and then wipe my laptop. i just need it for uni work and the like, so itl be all gravey baby.

thanks for all the help everyone, really good to have you lot to bug with stupid questions lol.

<<one very happy camper << lol
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[lllN30lll]

what was the grand total?
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Turbo R1
CRF450R

[-Savage-]

£478 total

bit more than i had origonally antisipated, but i guess now i wont need to upgrade for a good while, so im happy as larry lol
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My Bikes - - - Royal Enfield 500 with sidecar, VFR800, CBR600FX,
Peugeot Speedfight 100, Kymco Hipster 125, GSXR750K5, Jawa TS 350

[truslack]

I'll come and see you if I'm ever in Ireland! (which will probably in a year when I turn 17 and get a 125!) (do you need a passport to get into northern Ireland? I presume not, and I presume there's a ferry? )
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Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin)