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Itchy
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Jobs jobs jobs Reply with quote

how many jobs have you had in how many years? , I'm finding it really strange that people in this work place who are like mid 20s or even mid 30s say this is my first job , they;ve been here for like 10-20 years and are thus scared of moving on.

Am I odd in having lots and lots of jobs and virtually zero loyalty?

or is this just a sign of the times?

I think I've averaged at 2 main jobs per year and at least 4-5 secondary jobs per year , which thinking about it is like 100+ jobs by my mid 20s.

anythoughts?

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PostPosted: 07:44 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first started looking at getting into IT after being at Homebase for 5 years the same question came up.

"So why have you had so many jobs in Homebase?" (I'd had about 8 different job titles).

The honest answer was I got bored. After 6 months of doing the same thing I wanted something different, so moved store, department, whatever. But it doesnt look good on your CV.

Most companies dont expect you to stay forever, but they do expect som form of loyalty. If they are having to spend time and money training you on new systems, products and how to do your job, they want their monies worth out of you.

We have a guy who's only been here 8 weeks, he leaves today as he can't hack it. Now we have to spend time and money finding someone to replace him.
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in "IT", and was at my first company for 2.5 years, the next for 2, and then the third for 15 years. Since then I've contracted back pretty much to the same company I left, so that would bring it up to 18 years. In that time I've had maybe 5 roles, and the company changed its name/owners 5 times.

For me it's more to do with the money and laziness than loyalty.
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why have you done two threads exactly the same lol?
Delete the other one before anyone replies!

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PostPosted: 08:08 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the job.

I've been at the same place for nearly 9 years now. After the first 3, having got a couple of promotions, I became salary-trapped.

Having no qualifications other than GSCE's, there is no job I could go to where my salary would even come close. Sad

I'd love to do a job I looked forward to getting up for, but that's not gonna happen so long as I have the financial commitments I have (including 2 kids - so make that forever!!!)

Broon will probably chop a few more Civil Servant jobs soon enough though, so maybe I'd better start looking...? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 08:51 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professional Engineer - 10 jobs in 16 years. I have been a contractor for some of that time so it soon mounts up. I am currently working freelance in the first place I worked and there are a number of people I see/deal with who were there when I started and are still there now. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had loads of jobs and didn't settle down until I was about 25. Two jobs in the last 8 years but about 10 in the previous 8.

I think if you get into a position thats steady and reliable people tend to stick with it. Theres so much doubt and uncertainty these days you haven't got much choice.

Minimum wage (or just above) jobs are ten a penny, (assuming you can beat off the poles etc,) the good jobs are harder to come by.

Oh and CV's/loads of jobs? You need to do some judicious pruning, I only include my last three jobs. Anything further back isn't relative and if I was in a position for less than six months I didn't even bother including it, (unless it was pertinent to a new job.)

Since my CV is 90% fabrication anyway, leaving out the odd job here or there makes no odds... Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I joined my current employer when I was 18 working as a shop assistant, been here 6 years now but moved for a promotion into head office so really this is my only proper job since leaving college. Can't see myself leaving any time soon either Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to leave a trail of devastation behind me - of the six companies I have worked for full time, only two of them are still trading as they were or have the facility that I worked at still open. Confused

I work in an office now where three people (out of eight) have 19, 20 and 22 years service respectively - they have only ever worked for the one company!

But if you work in a big company you can still change jobs plenty of times without changing employer. We work on the basis that you should change role every 2-3 years here - it means people can develop and no-one stagnates (unless they want to).

When I am recruiting I think twice about taking someone on who has had loads of different employers.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had about 6 or 8 jobs within the 1st few years of employment, but been in my current job for the last 12 years or so.

Having said that, I've been getting itchy feet recently, so I'm planning to start actively looking for a change soon
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 job for 6 months, I'm good. Razz
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

20-25 ish can't really remember them all, if it's full-time main jobs I've had 13 with a total of 20 month's on the dole in between some of them. I've been made redundant 3 times, had 3 twelve month contracts, failed to finish a probationary period once, and moved onward and hopefully upwards of my own accord 5 times. Longest I ever been in a job is just over 3 years on two occasions, and funnily enough I start a new job on Monday 14th.

Looking back I suppose things could have gone better, with some moves I was young and impatient and if I was in the same situation again I might think twice before jumping ship.

Having said that when I get all philosophical I can look at mates who've had one job since leaving school, 3 marriages, 5 kids, and several women in their lives. I've had the same girlfriend, now wife, for 24 years and the kids I live with are mine.

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PostPosted: 22:54 - 11 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my opinon, job hopping with little or no improvement just cos u get bored is bad (my way)

job hopping to get progressively better jobs faster than waiting to be promoted is good but can backfire if you make bad choices (also my way)

i have worked at places where people have been rewarded for staying there ages, and places where they havnt

to me tho, money cant make up for excruitating boredom
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 14 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent 19 years in my first job at Bae Systems then took redundancy as it was obvious the place was in its death throes. I could have moved to either the Salmsbury or Chester sites but I didn't fancy it.

My next job was 6 weeks at a place in stockport that made blister packaging. I was working for an agency then and I dont think the firm liked to pay the extra cost so that was the end of that.

Third job was as a brake press operator. Terminally boring, low pay, not many holidays and the place was a death trap. 15 months.

Current Job, Electronics repairs. nearly 5 1/2 years.
Spent 2 1/2 years repairing 3com products then they lost contract and moved me onto consumer goods. Mainly dvdr/hdd recorders.
Interesting but money shit, and as I know too well now, health & safety unimportant.
Not sure how long my future with them will be as i'm claiming against them. I'm not the first employee to do so, i'm the 5th that I know of in the last 3 years. I do believe there have been others though...

Worst thing is that every time i've changed jobs my income has dropped. Theres lots of jobs around here, but they're all minimum wage ones with a high turnover of staff. Maybe I need to move to another area???
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 14 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a few:
Contract Cleaner (cleaned girl guides toilets - much dirtier than blokes bogs - filthy cows)
Picture Framer (used to ride a fs1e all the way to Wandsworth every day)
Cabinet Maker (liked that job)
Tree Surgeon (liked that job too - I planted 10,000 trees near Rykas at Boxhill - done my bit for carbon offset)
Delivery Driver (hated every minute - but it was a holiday Uni job - everyone was on 'the rob')
IT Helpdesk (took the piss out of people on the phone for 2 years)
Telecoms Tech (shite but good money)
IT Tech (money is great - but I want to go back to working outside now)
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 14 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been doing freelance web stuff for the three or so years since finishing my A levels. One of the best things about it is working with totally different people on totally different projects every few months.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I averaged about 2.5-3 years for my first few jobs.

Sometimes I jumped back into working for people I had worked for before (and now I freelance for them, instead)

I managed to stay in a law firm for 4 years, til I got fed up with the partners bitching all the time. When I went to see a recruitment consultant she was gobsmacked - telling me that average lifespan of a legal secretary job was a year and a half, LOL.

And now THIS job ... is the longest I have worked in any one place ever.

For five years Shocked I have been putting up with the personal dramatics of working girls and their clients.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Re: Jobs jobs jobs Reply with quote

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virtually zero loyalty


Hmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:

Having no qualifications other than GSCE's, there is no job I could go to where my salary would even come close. Sad

I've only got GCSE's and from what I've seen it's not a big issue in many sectors.
I've only had two serious jobs really.

Current one I'm happy enough to stay in as the pay is half decent, it's a mile from where I live and I get decent benefits.
Thanks to carrying a load over, I started this year with 40.5 days holiday!
It's not that I'm scared of moving on, it's just that this job is convienient and I'd prefer to put time into fun things 'than finding a new job.

When I've got a bit more time I may put some more time into looking around next year if I don't get a decent pay rise/promotion.
However, looking at other jobs I'd be expecting to get relatively quite high benefits in salary etc to make up for losing the convience and holliday entitlement etc.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 jobs in 4 years


Did some part time work in a fish & chip shop and sainburrys while at school then left school with hardly any GCSE,s at 16. was left with the choice of joining the army or doing a apprenticeship so started a electrician apprenticeship for a areosol production line building firm which then went of business 1 1/2 years later so l got taken on by there competitors to finish my apprenticeship, finished working there last September and got a job at a pasta production factory as a electrical engineer which l did for 3 months then moved on to my current job as a electrical engineer in building services in the city.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm on my twelfth or thirteenth job in seven years, including several where I worked as an agency temp, having twice been made redundant before that point Confused
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Re: Jobs jobs jobs Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
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virtually zero loyalty


Hmmmmmm.


I don't see the point of it , for relationships family yes jobs no,

infact many UK employees probably share more in common with your working girls than at first glance, we all sell out time and do things we don't really want to do for money,
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked for 10 differant places since the age of 17! and thats not counting the job i had in the chinese when i was 14 behind the counter.

Started off a dishwasher/waitress in two differant clubs/resterants etc
then to currys as the cashier

moved to our price as a sales assistant to manager. They went bust when changing hands.

Then to be a store detective. boring!

Then to nursing homes and was unhappy with all of them with the bad treatment.

then into private care where staff tried stealing my money and treating people like shit.

Now i am doing courses to actually do something with myself. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't see the point of it , for relationships family yes jobs no


I guess it depends heavily on the job and the industry you work in. Loyalty and dedication are seen as positives in many areas of business, especially within sectors that require chances to be taken with no dead cert guarantees.

I have staff I would consider loyal to me, who will go above and beyond what I could realistically ask from a member of staff who was just there for a job.

I guess it circumstancial. If your there to pay the bills and feed your family then I can see why there is no loyalty-its a means to an end. If its to better yourself and your future earnings then loyalty is, in my experience, something which is nessecary and should be developed amongst workers.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

you haven't seen the company policy of demotivation though have you? , think Nero fiddling while rome is burning this is an appropriate facimilie
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