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Jadc
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lol Razz

but its true...if u want to do wheelies do them in opened space area with no one around.

Do it on the streets your a t*t w*nk
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G
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jadc wrote:

Do it on the streets your a t*t w*nk

What about if you do something that distracts you more than someone doing a wheelie who's paying attention?
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 16 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Riding through a busy town centre on a very sunny summers day is down right bloody dangerous. There's many a time I have almost had an accident due to being distracted by ladies with not much on......... Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Grav wrote:
Riding through a busy town centre on a very sunny summers day is down right bloody dangerous. There's many a time I have almost had an accident due to being distracted by ladies with not much on......... Embarassed Laughing


That will pass when you get through puberty. Wink Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finglonga wrote:

That will pass when you get through puberty. Wink Mr. Green

It does? Wooo, I must still be a youngster then Razz.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Grav wrote:
Riding through a busy town centre on a very sunny summers day is down right bloody dangerous. There's many a time I have almost had an accident due to being distracted by ladies with not much on......... Embarassed Laughing



Ahh.... The Hot days of Summer.

When girls can look their best (and smell their worst). Sick
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colin1
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
colin1 wrote:

they shouldnt think the law is wrong


Go colin! Rolling Eyes

Many laws are wrong, they should be challenged, re-examined and changed constantly. You SHOULD think the law is wrong and where you do, try and get it changed. Anything else is fascism.

Problem is, nobody thought to mention this to Tony.


there is a difference between a law being changed, and just breaking it because you dont agree with it.

i break laws, but i always know im being naughty

i dont justify my actions by saying the law is wrong
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Jadc
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
My opinion its very good thats its illegal to do it ...wanna show of ya skills go do it professionally Wink
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
colin1 wrote:

i break laws, but i always know im being naughty

i dont justify my actions by saying the law is wrong


Naughty according to whom? The laws of the society should be made in a moral, just and well informed manner, largely decided my the masses. Infact, they are designed by a bunch of pompus, over-paid twits, empowered by the ill-informed majority and kept there and paid by the capitolist villains of our society. Have you noticed how much "Lord" Sainsbury donated to the labout party? Have you also noticed that corporation tax was reduced, and small business increased in the last budget? Nor really coincidence, is it?

The point here is that anything which is created by a government in our society is created purely for selfish, and/or financial motives. Speed cameras are a prime example. Laws should never be wrong, but in the eyes of many they are. They are a useless tool with which the government issues threats. In a utopian society, there would be no laws and the morality of the masses would prevail, but i am all too aware that this will never happen. To me, the law is an influence. Sometimes i consider it right (very rarely) and 99.9% of the time i consider the law, or its' execution to be completely wrong.

The government is like the prison "hard man" who fucks people in the ass. It sounds to me like you're taking it in the ass, Colin. Act to your own morals and judgement, and tell the pricks in whitehall to go and fuck themselves Thumbs Up

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Ciar?n
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jadc wrote:
My opinion its very good thats its illegal to do it ...wanna show of ya skills go do it professionally Wink


But to do it professionally you need sponsers and a team.

Which is hard to form if you've never done a wheelie before.

Gotta practise somewhere.

So i believe slack should be given to trading estate stunters
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ciarán wrote:

So i believe slack should be given to trading estate stunters

Indeed. It'd be nice to see authorities putting some effort into helping those that want to practice 'legally' off the road.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think wheelying in a public place is stupid for your own safety really theres so many thick twats out there that will not look walk out in the road you smash into them at 50

you kill them and end up facing the judge

now a trading estate is fine i normally film ciaran sometimes as well
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Jadc
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ciarán wrote:
Jadc wrote:
My opinion its very good thats its illegal to do it ...wanna show of ya skills go do it professionally Wink


Gotta practise somewhere.



Yeh non public places Smile
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 17 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Johnny GSX-R wrote:
2) It will come under 'Dangerous Driving' which will incurr a ban.
Dangerous Driving is quite a grey area but a wheelie will 90% of the time fall into that category.

3) They are damn dangerous when performed on the public road or in the vacinity of members of the public.

4) It gives other bikers a bad name.

5) As stated, the higher percentage of braking is done by the front wheel, with that in the air you are significantly increasing your braking distance = DANGEROUS.


Just because it looks dangerous, it doesn't actually mean it would fall into the dangerous driving category.
Imo it would probably be a case of driving without due care and attention. More often than not though a copper will give you a caution, as long as the wheely wasn't past a primary school at closing time.

And how you can say a controlled wheely is dangerous when last year you posted photos of your blackbirds pegs mangled up.
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Ciar?n
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
Ciarán wrote:

So i believe slack should be given to trading estate stunters

Indeed. It'd be nice to see authorities putting some effort into helping those that want to practice 'legally' off the road.


Well the amount of money they spend trying to stop us doing naughty shit. They should i don't know... box off a carpark on a sunday or something.

I wouldn't object to paying £3-5 for somewhere i can stunt with a police presence.

But then i guess they'll use it to fuck you over anyway.

They'd note your bike, your clothing, lid, plate, etc.

Then you'd get harassed for riding in the road.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
The issue is with liablity insurance.

Something is laid on, then someone flips a wheelie and sues the organisers because they should have had someone throw a mattress undereath their bike to prevent damage or something Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
The issue is with liablity insurance.

Something is laid on, then someone flips a wheelie and sues the organisers because they should have had someone throw a mattress undereath their bike to prevent damage or something Rolling Eyes.


Indeed, and if a disclaimer is used, then there is the possibility that it can be overruled by a judge if there is a court case. I remember a gentleman visiting a gym losing his wallet, watch and car keys because his locker was brocken into. He lost a beemer, a VERY expensive watch, and his cash and cards. Even though the gym had a disclaimer stating that they accepted no responsibility for theft of or damage to any goods left in the locker, the victim successfully claimed against the gym in court.

I think the way it works at the moment is alright. Practicing on an industrial estate means that the vehicles you're most likely to come across are artics, which are easy to spot, and because the access is good then ambulance response times should be low, which is handy incase there's a bad accident.

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Ciar?n
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 18 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fun is illegal in this country...

Can't do feck all.

Ah well Smile

Stunter on the run Mr. Green

They should put drag strips up everywhere, and have stunt days Smile
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colin1
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jack_Cheese wrote:
It sounds to me like you're taking it in the ass, Colin. Act to your own morals and judgement, and tell the pricks in whitehall to go and fuck themselves Thumbs Up



Im not taking it in the ass. I obey the law when it suits me. Most of the time i obey it and there are only a few laws that I think are so unjust that I dont feel naughty when breaking them.

However speeding laws are there to protect the public and I know that I and others would be safer if I stuck to them a bit more.

Yes 95% of people break speed limits but it still makes 95% of people stick within 20mph of the speed limit most of the time which I think is a good thing.
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Chappy96
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I can probably bring a bike down from a wheelie (unless it's a very twitchy race bike Embarassed) and stop quicker than your average harley could stop riding normally.


Not as fast as if you weren't wheelieing in the first place though Rolling Eyes
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No, but are you suggesting it should be illegal if you can't stop as quickly as I can on sports bike with both wheels on the ground?

Or are you suggesting that people should have the personal choice to choose a bike that is more dangerous, but should not have the personal choice to perform an action that is still relatively les dangerous, but more dangerous than riding 'normally'?
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
something that obviously reduced control of the vehicle, such as wheelying a bike, or a car driver driving whil holding a phone, are reasonable grounds for prosectuion in my mind.

The fact that some people are more dangerous by their inability to pay attention, or control their vehicle is less easy to legistlate over as their loss of control is only evident if they actually crash.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
No, but are you suggesting it should be illegal if you can't stop as quickly as I can on sports bike with both wheels on the ground?

Or are you suggesting that people should have the personal choice to choose a bike that is more dangerous, but should not have the personal choice to perform an action that is still relatively les dangerous, but more dangerous than riding 'normally'?


My point was: you cannot stop with one the front wheel in the air as fast as if you had both on the ground......That is how the police look at it and is how motorcyclists should if they don't want to get get "done" for it. End of......

I can see exactly where you're coming from, and agree with you totally that some makes of bike just won't pull up in anywhere near the same distance as others, and certain peoples' skill levels are higher than others. However, try that arguement with mr plod at the side of the road and see where it gets you. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 21 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Since I don't ride a sports bike and my cruiser won't do a wheelie, I have to ask at what point in your biking experience are you capable of pulling a wheelie? I ask because just today I downed my bike due to nothing more than inexperience. If your first wheelie is done while you're young and stupid, then by all means it should be illegal on public roads because at least half of wheelie-ers are going to hurt themselves and give the other half a bad name.

I've seen guys pull wheelies and often they look like they have pretty good control of their bike, but I gotta wonder how long and how many crashes it took for them to get that way. It's those crashes that the law will have to look out for.

I would only hope that by the time a ride is able to pull a wheelie, they are responsible enough to know when one can be safely done.
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Almost as crazy as the 'excessive lean' thread......

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=90432&highlight=excessive+lean

I wonder if excessive acceleration is illegal.
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