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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: suitable replacement Reply with quote

Hi , can any one think of a suitable Engine to fit in here ?

Around the 400cc mark , its just that the cost to fix the engine that all ready in it is not worth it , DO NOT try and say don't bother with putting a different engine in it , just say what engine is around the right size to fit the gap, I personally think that most twin 1980 engines will fit it , am I right in thinking this or not ? Also it will be my dad that sorts the engine brackets and all the wiring and carb issues out with it ect, so it will be done to a very good standard.

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PostPosted: 15:57 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sayin diddly squat other than a CBR125 engine will fit until you at least post some dimensions of the hole I'm afraid...
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mabee a cb350 /360 or 400
or a xr400/ 600 i don't know how hard its going to be to fit Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not put another Zephyr 550 in there? About £30-£50 off ebay
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to break it, I'll have the rear shocks, rear mudguard (if it's not rusted to pieces) and possibly front mudguard Thumbs Up
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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This any better for you?

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Why not put another Zephyr 550 in there? About £30-£50 off ebay


A what ? It had a 250 engine in it.

And a 250 engine is to small cc wise.

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PostPosted: 16:18 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What engine was in it originally, Jamie?

*EDIT*

Ooops! posting at same time.....

Z250 by any chance?

If so, a Z400 twin will fit if you can get one.


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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grav wrote:
What engine was in it originally, Jamie?


The bog standard ,17 BHP, 250cc yammy xs engine.
EDIT: This is the engine out of it:


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PostPosted: 16:21 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right.

XS 400 will drop straight in.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grav wrote:
Right.

XS 400 will drop straight in.


Any idea how much one would be ?

Also I take it it would need some xs400 carbs + some electrical bits, coils ect , or can a just re jet the carb off it and use the same coils+wiring ?
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

CB500 should drop straight in too mefinx... altho you'd need to house the radiator somewhere...

The job would be easier if you could fit all the matching electrics and fuelling system in...
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XS400 motor n' bits - https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Yamaha-XS400-YICS-Engine-and-other-bits_W0QQitemZ130116009040QQihZ003QQcategoryZ10490QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Quite a few CB500 engines - https://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=cb500+engine
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ring round the Breakers, Jamie. I would get the loom and carbs to go with the engine as I don't know if any parts are common to both engines. I would imagine they are, but don't quote me on that.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're going for a bigger engine, I'd consider uprating the front calipers too... eg: you're going from stopping 17bhp to stopping nearing 60bhp if you went with a CB500...
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamie stokes wrote:
A what ? It had a 250 engine in it.


Sorry Embarassed It looks just like a Zephyr 550/z550. My bad
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuck a gs500 engine in it, air cooled so no bother with mounting a rad,
i would up grade the brakes,
if its any thing like the cb250 brakes..
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The brake are not that bad TBH, will just service them and put new pads,oil and braided hoses on them.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crav , what are the xs400 engines like , will they be big enough to pull me and my dad ? ( Me 15 st Dad 13 st)

Also will they go more than 50 MPH ? As thats all we got out of the 250.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wont be adequate to stop the great increase in hp.

Not improving the braking is a short sighted problem, all the extra power is pointless unless you are able to stop.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get yourself a nice big rat and a large hamster wheel. Hook a sprocket up to one side of the wheel and run your chain over that. Put that rat in and give it a swift kick - you'll be going before you know it.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Re: suitable replacement Reply with quote

[quote="jamie stokes"] DO NOT try and say don't bother with putting a different engine in it ,




dont bother with putting a different engine in it , Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's still possible to get an XS 400, there's one lurking in a breakers somewhere, all neglected and hidden under a bench just waiting for a new home. Trawl through the breakers pages in Bike Mart that comes with MCN.

It's a challenge, but one which could be just the job for Jamie to sink his teeth into.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 24 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day BLUEX5 I have here a bike with a f_U_C_K_E_D engine that is worth NOTHING TO ME , so I might at least try with a different engine as I have NOTHING to lose , if the worst comes to the worst and I buy an xs400 engine or something and my plan does not work then I will just sell the engine back on to some one else, you never know that with the right engine and brakes I may well have a very nice bike, even a new restoration project for when the Ariel is finished, but on a much cheaper scale , you never know I might even have the PERFECT bike to have when I am 17 , after all they would be classic insurance , and a "funky" bike to own at 17 , yes it will be 33BHP safety Nazis's (sp?)

I think GRAV understands were I am coming from , and also I think he has made my mind up on what engine to get , cheers mate.

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PostPosted: 11:32 - 25 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy to be of help, Jamie. Thumbs Up
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