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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: And the best Super moto bike is? Reply with quote

Hey guys, im after a Supermoto.

I want Loudness, Looks, Wheelies, and damn right sexyness.

Dont want a 125 since they just ant got umph ( not like my rs 125 anyways )

Name a bike please Smile
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 28 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont want a 125 since they just ant got umph ( not like my rs 125 anyways )


Laughing You haven't ridden a proper 2t 125 supermoto have you? Think 40 or so horsepower for a road legal competition 'moto.

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery/Husqvarna%20SM%20125S%2006.jpg

A bit softer and more suitable for the road, Husqvarna 125 s

Anyway...

Goodness me, best supermoto? how long is a piece of string?

You've got Vertemati, one of the tartiest, expensive, lightest bike makers around with prices up to 7k, all the way down to Beta, that'll churn out a 33 BHP legal 350cc supermoto for 4k.

A good starter supermoto is a DRZ-400 SM, less maintenance than a large capacity Husqy or KTM, slightly less scary to ride and still very quick (think 0-60 in way under 4 seconds) and cheapish second hand too.

The 'best' supermoto (the one that won the championship last year) is this https://www.motoblog.it/uploads/ApriliaSVX.jpg The aprilia SVX 450 twin. Seriously expensive though, and reasonably high maintenance.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, Im not saying 125s ant fast, just that my rs is starting to bore me now, And 125s are annoying due to the ammount of rebuilding, ect. I just want a reasonable sized 4 stroke that I can fuck around on and not worrie to much about smashing the farings up.

Like the sound of this DRZ-400, 0-60 in under 4 secs? thats fucking fast.

Out of interest, what does the duke do 0-60 in? Ive heard there really fast ( helps when they got a 640cc engine mind.. .)
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the DRZ-400 sm managed a 3.7 second run to 60 on a video i was watching, The Duke should run somewhere in the low 3s, they have more power but are heavier, very quick still though, and have more of a top end.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something like this a CR500 it doesnt get anymore mental!!

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-CR500-CR-500-SUPERMOTO-1998_W0QQitemZ4629015548QQcategoryZ9806QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never new these bikes where so fast!

Ive never actually seen some1 go for it on one. Pretty sure im gona get a SM next!
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 30 Apr 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3085836475561057708&q=supermoto&pl=true

People 'going for it' on supermotos.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ-400 sm managed a 3.7 and good for 100mph
Have to see that video

If a drz-400 can do that, what can a KTM 660SM with its
Weight kept to a minimum by kick-start only and weighing in around 135kg, with around 65bhp+ on tap

Akrapovic titanium silencer
Fully de-restricted with new jets and needles

This model is classed as the road legal racer in the s/moto line up

That’s the bike I want, but I’m most likely to get a CCM R30 though.

What do you think?
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 01 May 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a link to that video, but it has been deleted. Rolling Eyes

It was on a site that had all the videos and times of cars and bikes 0-60.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: DRZ400-SM Reply with quote

I ride a DRZ400-SM, and find it hard to believe that it does
0-60 in 3.7. The thing only has about 30 hp, and isn't
that light.....

bruce.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 06 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ktm.is/images/models/16-1.jpg

KTM all the way dude,
get the super enduro lol

https://www.moto-station.com/ttesimages/motodivers/nouveautes2006/KTM_950_SuperEnduro_stpz.jpg
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 07 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a serious modern supermoto, get a Husaberg650 and stick a 750cc bore kit on:
https://www.husaberg.se/fileadmin/user_upload/fs650c-2.jpg

However even the standard ones are quite high maintenance and you'd probably be faster on the 550 even if you're pretty damn skilled at it.

Baller, note that these bikes are going to be limited by the front wheel coming up for a lot of them - the comp spec ones tend to be a lot lighter (110kg or so) and possibly a bit higher - so extra power doesn't make a big difference at slower speeds.

If this is an 'only' bike, then one of the heavier KTMs would probably make a good choice if you want a non-jap bike.
If you don't mind spending lots of money maintaining a weekend toy, something like an 04 Husaberg (more reliable from 04 on) has a dry weight of 112kg or so and plenty of power (go for the 550) with decent suspension and a 'leccy boot that works.
My 02 501 will wheelie off the power in third and is very, very chuckable if you try, despite the avon on the front.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CCM 640's are about the fastest out their (sportsbike beaters apparently). My Duke was very quick up to a tun and was a wheelie don!
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 15 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the CCM and Duke are pretty heavy compared to the comp spec bikes like the Husaberg and lighter KTMs (525) etc, never mind a converted crosser.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ with gsxr400/600 lump? That would be an animal..
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 19 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
The CCM 640's are about the fastest out their (sportsbike beaters apparently


Where's the "rolling around on the floor crying with laughter " smilie Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 20 May 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sparks! wrote:
JAMSXR wrote:
The CCM 640's are about the fastest out their (sportsbike beaters apparently


Where's the "rolling around on the floor crying with laughter " smilie Laughing


You mean. . . https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Finglonga%20Inc/Smiliesirotoladallerisate.gif or https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Finglonga%20Inc/jesterbg.gif.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 04 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: DRZ400-SM Reply with quote

hound wrote:
I ride a DRZ400-SM, and find it hard to believe that it does
0-60 in 3.7. The thing only has about 30 hp, and isn't
that light.....

bruce.


The video I was watching may have been a converted DRZ-400 'e' model, which has more aggressive cams, bigger carb, higher compression and is about 15 kilos lighter than the 'S' version on which I believe the SM edition is based. My DR350 has about 32hp, your DRZ-400 should have about 37ish i think.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 20 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cr500 Sm hands down Very Happy

bias as i have one tho
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 20 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the best Super moto bike is?

...My one hahahha Cool
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 25 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

For an off the peg bike i'd probably say the KTM690SM. The competition orientated SM's just are not nice or practical enough for road use and are a little fragile. If i wanted a really trick powerful SM, id go for a 2stroke MX conversion, as a 250 or better still a 500cc 2stroke MX bike will easily outlast some heavily tuned big thumpers between re-builds, and it would be far quicker and cheaper to re-build the 2stroke too.

As far as specials go, then i couldn't pick one. I hope my KMX200 will be fun, if it stays at around 100kg dry, and puts out around 35-38bhp, then that is a reasonable power to weight ratio i would say.

I've always wanted a TDR250 with a 350YPVS lump, or to build a trick TDR400 using a stroked crank and DT200R barrels etc, which im sure has been done a few times, but it's not simple.

In an old edition of Supermoto magazine, there was a DR800 Big, with an RG500 square four engine grafted in. The look of the four spannies, two of which were exiting above the tail unit looked so cool! 75bhp+ at the rear wheel from a reliable enough standard engine is cool too, and 100bhp r/w being in easy reach with a few tweaks! Smile
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ktm 660 smc - loadsa torque + power, loadsa aftermarket mods, look pucker .... you cannee go wrong search here www.ktmforum.co.uk
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeyboy wrote:
ktm 660 smc - loadsa torque + power, loadsa aftermarket mods, look pucker .... you cannee go wrong search here www.ktmforum.co.uk


Oi Monkey, piss off and take the ghey with you. Wink

You posted a pic of your bike on here yet? That'll convert a couple. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeyboy wrote:
ktm 660 smc - loadsa torque + power, loadsa aftermarket mods, look pucker .... you cannee go wrong search here www.ktmforum.co.uk

And loads of weight too Razz (compared to a 'proper' supermoto).
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 13 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhino wrote:
monkeyboy wrote:
ktm 660 smc - loadsa torque + power, loadsa aftermarket mods, look pucker .... you cannee go wrong search here www.ktmforum.co.uk


Oi Monkey, piss off and take the ghey with you. Wink

You posted a pic of your bike on here yet? That'll convert a couple. Laughing


alright bum bandit:cool:knew a few o' the boyz from the hood would be lurking here somewhere:D
Ah well ere she is ktm 660 factory Rolling Eyes Laughing
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