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PostPosted: 10:06 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Big Brother race row. round 2. Reply with quote

Oh dear, here we go again..........


Emily is removed from Big Brother


Emily Parr has been removed from the Big Brother house for using a racially offensive word to another housemate.

The 19-year-old from Bristol was taken out of the compound at 0330 BST and was forbidden from having any further contact with the 11 other contestants.

This week's eviction vote has been suspended, in which Emily was nominated along with Shabnam Paryani.

A spokeswoman for Channel 4 said that the decision had been taken because "such behaviour won't be tolerated".

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Channel 4 said the offensive term was not broadcast in the programme during a live stream, and was immediately reported to senior production staff.

Emily said: "Are you pushing it out, you nigger?" to Charley Uchea, while they were dancing in the living room on Wednesday evening.

In consultation with broadcast executives, the decision was taken to remove Emily from the house because she had breached rules governing contestant behaviour.

This includes causing serious offence based on the grounds of race.

Angela Jain, head of the Big Brother commissioning team, said: "The word nigger is clearly racially offensive and there was no justification for its use."

She added: "She [Emily] understands why her involvement has come to an end and she very much regrets what she said.

"I think people watching the show tonight will agree that Emily spoke carelessly rather than maliciously - certainly Charley and Nicky, the two housemates most directly involved in the conversation with her, seemed to accept that she did."

Ms Jain said that the decision had been taken in the wake of the alleged racist bullying of Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty on Celebrity Big Brother earlier this year.

The broadcaster was censured by media watchdog Ofcom and ordered to make a series of on-air apologies for the incident which prompted a flood of complaints.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6729673.stm
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charley actually said she wasn't offended by it. meh.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres a transcript....Seems 3 people actually said the word, but as 2 of them are black they must be allowed to say it....

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Emily: (referring to Charley dancing/pushing her hips forward) You pushing it out you nigger.
Nicky: (shocked laughter) Em, I can't believe you said that.
Charley: You are in trouble.
Emily: Don't make a big thing out of it then. I was joking.
Charley: I know you were... but that's some serious shit, sorry.
Emily: Why?
Charley: Oh my god. I'm not even saying it.
Nicky: Just don't talk about it anymore.
Emily: I was joking
Charley: Do you know how many viewers would watch that?
Nicky: Okay, don't make a big deal out of it.
Charley: Fancy you saying that. I can't believe you said that.
Emily: Somebody has already used that word in this house.
Charley: No way. (Pause) Yeah, me. I'm a nigger.

Nicky laughs.

Charley: I am one. Fancy you saying it. I know maybe you see it in a rap song. Maybe you and your friends sit there saying it.
Emily: I'm friendly with plenty of black people.
Nicky: And you call them niggers?
Emily: Yeah and they call me niggers. They call me wiggers as well.
Nicky: I'm quite shocked.
Charley: I'm fucking in shock.
Emily: It's not a big deal though is it?
Charley: Not for us it ain't. Fuck me.


Emily
https://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/images/Channel4/bigbrother8/days/d03_010607_fri/gallery/bb803_wedgy--bb8-A.jpg

Charley
https://bbimages.digitalspy.co.uk/bb8/300x400_bb8_cast_charley01.jpg

Nicky
https://bbimages.digitalspy.co.uk/bb8/300x400_bb8_cast_nicky01.jpg


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PostPosted: 10:14 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, real words, real life.....shame some of the viewers can't hack it.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can feel the bile rising!

I know the typical statement '...I'm not racist but...' means that the next thing that comes out of their mouth is one of the most racist things known to man or beast.

However, I am not racist but, WTF is with trying to protect minorities in this over the top PC bullshit country that we live in?

If Charley had said something in the same ilk as Emily, would she have been evicted.

The answer, no!

I dont mean to come across as high and mighty or poking fun or aimed at anyone, but isn't this just a knee jerk reaction due to the debacle with Jade Goody?
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

WHO GIVES A SHIT?

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PostPosted: 10:26 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwntifex wrote:
Hi,

WHO GIVES A SHIT?

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Well you read it so you obviously have some interest in it.... Confused
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's pretty racist that someone with black skin is allowed to say 'nigger' and someone with white skin is not. Surely the black girl needs to be booted aswell, she said that word several times.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I didn’t get about the last row about BB was that all the knobs who complained said it was terrible seeing it because they did and people watched it for entertainment.

No one wanted those rows more than the majority of public, it was slightly entertaining and funny to see the scum that is Ms Goody make herself look like a twat. Shilpa, is has been brought up in a Bollywood bubble, sheltered, she hasn’t met people who don’t fall at her feet and compliment her on her looks every time she struts passed.

Millions of viewers for example watch Hollyoaks, they’ve had race related episodes, even a few in a row..….ok it’s before the water shed so there’s nothing that offensive, but young people watch it for entertainment

Intelligent viewers of BB understand that real people in a reality show, might say things that are offensive to some people, this is because this actually happens in real life. In this case, it is an offensive word, but not said as an insult.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:

Well you read it so you obviously have some interest in it.... Confused

I must admit, I approached it with some trepidation.
I paced back and forth between here and the kitchen, head down, pondering. Should I open it? Should I?

I weighed up the pros and the cons:

PROS
I could make a scathing post in response.
I would learn more about the lower echelons of society.
Everybody would be impressed at my knowledge of current affairs.
I could laugh for a moment. Perhaps two.

CONS
There may be pictures of ugly women in there.
It may lead to spree killing.
It may unleash untold amounts of evil into the world.

So I decided to open it.
OH! My nightmares. They hit me with the force of a tsunami.
Wet, cold and angry at myself and all the world, I posted.

I'm sorry. I'm not proud of it. I very much regret what I said.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope they have a power cut and stay off line until the year 2020.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only reason I went along with the Jade Goody is racist bandwagon was because I hate her and couldn't for her to be out of the public limelight.

This is a stupid kneejerk reaction from Channel 4.

Would a black person get kicked out of the BB house if they called a white person "whitetrash"?
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh come on. Who honestly didn't expect they'd take the very first opportunity to be seen to be squeaky clean and "deal with racism" after the last fiasco?
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've all got no brain.

End of story.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: Big Brother race row. round 2. Reply with quote

Owdamer wrote:
Big Brother race row. round 2....

Or as I look at it
Big Brother - the search for better ratings

...except I don't look at it, if you get my drift.

Very Happy

IMO I don't think the producers have much in the way of morals. They would do anything if it thought it'd improve viewing figures. Just waiting to hear if they'll be putting a Welsh guy in there with a sheep Wink Razz
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, BB relies on Scandal to keep ts viewing up. Won't be long before incest is used to keep the viewing figures up.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigie b wrote:
Well, BB relies on Scandal to keep ts viewing up. Won't be long before incest is used to keep the viewing figures up.


...The Twins? Shifty
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Charley & Nicky blokes?
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: Big Brother race row. round 2. Reply with quote

map wrote:
Just waiting to hear if they'll be putting a Welsh guy in there with a sheep Wink Razz


To me, that's the only form of racism that's acceptable Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Would a black person get kicked out of the BB house if they called a white person "whitetrash"?


It would seem not.

Didn't Jermaine Jackson come out with this exact phrase in "The" celebrity version, whilst refering to the Goody Family?
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:53 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/images/Channel4/bigbrother8/days/d03_010607_fri/gallery/bb803_wedgy--bb8-A.jpg

I'd tap it Wink
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pte1643 wrote:
Jon B wrote:
Would a black person get kicked out of the BB house if they called a white person "whitetrash"?


It would seem not.

Didn't Jermaine Jackson come out with this exact phrase in "The" celebrity version, whilst refering to the Goody Family?


One could argue that this wasn't racist but accurate. Thinking
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could argue that the "white" part of the comment is superfluous, otherwise what is it if it isn't racist? Would "black trash" be considered non racist? I think not.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
You could argue that the "white" part of the comment is superfluous, otherwise what is it if it isn't racist? Would "black trash" be considered non racist? I think not.

I think the racism tag is badly handled by our society. IMO it's also used by non-white's as a stick to beat white, sorry shouldn't that be anglo-saxon?, people. The tag racism is used when really it's just bad/no manners or just poor use of the language.

Just as a thought, calling someone who looks white 'trailer trash'. Is that racist, insulting or just a classification?
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