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Kwaks
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, seems pretty simple to me, Russia is simply strengthening its bargaining power by moving its position further from the US, thus has more room to play and negotiate on in G8 talks, trade discussions etc. End up we will just have to give a little more ground in discussions to get to the result that both can accept.

As far as US putting any sort of weapon infrastructure in other countries, I have to disagree with it. How would America react if Iran brokered a deal with Cuba to site long range weapons there?
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
require a totally new system based on technology none of us have.


That's what they want you to think... Shifty

By the way, isn't it "Grauniad"?
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Mister James
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwaker6r wrote:
Well, seems pretty simple to me, Russia is simply strengthening its bargaining power by moving its position further from the US, thus has more room to play and negotiate on in G8 talks, trade discussions etc. End up we will just have to give a little more ground in discussions to get to the result that both can accept.


Wise words.

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As far as US putting any sort of weapon infrastructure in other countries, I have to disagree with it. How would America react if Iran brokered a deal with Cuba to site long range weapons there?


Two points there:

a) This is a radar structure for a purely defensive weapons system - America already has the ability to raze Iran (or anyone else) to the ground.

b) America would obviously react badly, however if Iran thought it was possible they would try and get away with it, just as America is now. It's perfectly natural for nations/groups/individuals to try and gain an unfair advantage over their rivals. America is doing nothing that the rest of us wouldn't do in their place.

Tarmacsurfer wrote:

By the way, isn't it "Grauniad"?



Embarassed

I was....errr....trying to be ironic by deliberately mis-spelling the deliberately mis-spelt joke.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any one else think that a renewed Russian threat will really help quiet the critics of the UK's new nuclear programme?

Couldn't be better timing for Gordon Brown, one less issue he's going to have to battle
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

FreshAL wrote:
Any one else think that a renewed Russian threat will really help quiet the critics of the UK's new nuclear programme?


Nothing can help those morons, they'll just find another cause to bleat about.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 07 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putin is just establishing fact. Russia is still a power to be reckoned with.

Was America happy with Rusky Missiles in Cuba?

More to be uncertain about.

Putin has a big knob.

That wee prick Am-a-dinner-jacket from Iran is a Knob.

I see Islamist radicals as more threat than Red Mafia.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 08 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Islamic Bomb is a far more frightening prospect than Putin's sabre-rattling. Russians share many of our goals and aspirations; their behaviour can be predicted and they have a vested interest in maintaining the international status quo, for the most part.

Islamic regimes share none of the above characteristics, and thus pose a much greater threat.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 10 Nov 2026    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
An Islamic Bomb is a far more frightening prospect than Putin's sabre-rattling. Russians share many of our goals and aspirations; their behaviour can be predicted and they have a vested interest in maintaining the international status quo, for the most part.

Islamic regimes share none of the above characteristics, and thus pose a much greater threat.


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