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mistergixer
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Racing Sidecars Reply with quote
Whilst watching the sidecars on telly fly round the TT, something occured to me:
Why the fuck don't they build them with any suspension? They weave all over the place when they hit even a tiny bump! There must be a reason for it (i'm guessing), but i'm buggered if i can work it out.
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thegubner
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Purely a guess, but could it be anything to do with stiffer handling round corners, to help the monkey on the back out a bit?

I would of thought the less roll it has round a bend, the easier it is for the monkey to help counter balance it?
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Nath
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought they did have suspension, just very very stiff and with little travel?

Getting the weight as low to the ground as possible is probably another reason.
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Cigaro
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is probably a very stupid question, but why race a sidecar and bike? Isn't it faster to have the bike on its own?
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
Because you can?

One could argue 'why race a bike' when racing cars are often faster. Smile

Remember, racing sidecars are custom built from the start, more a case of this

https://www.roadracers.uk.com/crowe2005sidecartt1.jpg

than this

https://pittsburghdish.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sidecar.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd love to have a go at being a sidecar monkey but i doubt a 14 1/2 stone frame is ideal. anyone on here race one?
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thegubner
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
fredsredhat wrote:
I'd love to have a go at being a sidecar monkey but i doubt a 14 1/2 stone frame is ideal. anyone on here race one?



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Bendy
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 14 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote
fredsredhat wrote:
I'd love to have a go at being a sidecar monkey but i doubt a 14 1/2 stone frame is ideal. anyone on here race one?


G managed.

And if I get my spot, I'll be doing my best on Saturday. Not exactly sylph-like, me. Embarassed
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MementoMori
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 15 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: Racing Sidecars Reply with quote
Bendy wrote:
Remember, racing sidecars are custom built from the start, more a case of this:


https://www.roadracers.uk.com/crowe2005sidecartt1.jpg

Or in my case, this!: Mr. Green

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a312/ilikeforks/4.jpg

Sorry, I couldn't miss the photo opportunity!

mistergixer wrote:
Whilst watching the sidecars on telly fly round the TT, something occured to me:
Why the fuck don't they build them with any suspension? They weave all over the place when they hit even a tiny bump! There must be a reason for it (i'm guessing), but i'm buggered if i can work it out.
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Better traction, less weight = SPEEEED!!!

Who needs comfort? Quicker you go, quicker you finish the race, more chance you have of winning, less amount of time spent violently chucking yourself around on a metal frame, trying to synchronise with centrifugal forces and hanging on for your life.

fredsredhat wrote:
I'd love to have a go at being a sidecar monkey but i doubt a 14 1/2 stone frame is ideal. anyone on here race one?


Check out this thread. Heavier passengers can hold the sidecar down better around corners but may mean slower starts.

K, hope this helps someone!
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mistergixer
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 15 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: Racing Sidecars Reply with quote
MementoMori wrote:

Better traction, less weight = SPEEEED!!!

Who needs comfort? Quicker you go, quicker you finish the race, more chance you have of winning, less amount of time spent violently chucking yourself around on a metal frame, trying to synchronise with centrifugal forces and hanging on for your life.



I would have thought that having some form of damping would increase traction - the wheel would be in contact with the ground more and wouldn't be bouncing or skipping over bumps.
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