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PostPosted: 20:40 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Anyone feel like giving up road riding? Reply with quote

Everytime I hear something about a crash or a death it sticks in my head for a few days even thought I don't even know the people.


I was off a bike for 10 months after a crash as I thought I'd reached my limit. Thankfully I'm back on one, 6 weeks later I'm liking it but I'm not getting the love from road riding that I did previously.

Maybe some nerves, being cautious, who knows but there has been so many crashes and deaths this year it puts me off. I've slowed right down on runs, backing off miles before junctions, trying to judge each bend just in case someone comes out on me (like last night, arctic lorry size didn't see me!! Shocked )...

I'm kinda condering selling my bike and getting a track machine only now. I know there is still an element of danger but not as much as the road and as my bike is a toy only, a track bike kinda makes sense just now.


Anyone else suffer these moments when you hear terrible stuff or am I a tad highly strung?!? Neutral
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the ring and then a track day. since then I dont ride half as fast on the road as I used too. (I can still spank born agains on their R1's and blades on my 250 though) Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I felt the same after a couple of offs but getting out more and few thousand smooth carefull miles under the belt soon sorted that out and i'm probably riding almost as quick now as I ever have. Riding quick in rideouts is a recipie for disaster though. I only go quick in very small groups or alone.

Keep at it dude Thumbs Up Come up north for a visit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick, heard about your 'antics' Twisted Evil cc, I'd say go in for a trackday, or Go-karting, I did it on saturday and I didn't feel the need to go above speed limits on roads for anything(not that I usually do), as the go-kart got my speeding treatment Embarassed Laughing so try different things, and as for the confidence, riding will clear it up, good luck with what ever you decide Karma
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

valver wrote:


Keep at it dude Thumbs Up Come up north for a visit Thumbs Up


You putting me up for a night!? Wink Thumbs Up

st3v3 wrote:


cc, I'd say go in for a trackday


Done one last friday, got another booked for the 14th of July I loved it that much, even though it was pissing wet, I had more fun in 2 hours than I have in 6 weeks being back on the road again.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame you feel like that, more so a shame that's it's probably other peoples driving that causes you to feel like that. End of the day, it's how you feel. If you don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it. Not taking the piss, but maybe you could consider more of a cruiser, i.e Harley (sorry for the blasphemy fellow sports bikers) , as you will inherently be less tempted to speed (not be able to more like) and therefore feel more in control and safe, and therefore just enjoy the cruise.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you got the right idea, if you want ot go fast do it somewhere where its safer. At least on the track there should be no muppets pulling out on you or comming at you....

Just use a road bike for the odd day out or commuting.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darwin's Theory at its best.

We should learn from experience.

Some don't/didn't.

It can take a long time to regain the 'confidence'/stupidity you once had after an off.

I like the road much more than track.

Lots of reasons.

1st you never need to book a ride out.

Go at your own pace.

If you still enjoy road but feel you lost the edge.
Speak to IAM. (Some of them are a shower of wankers though. Rolling Eyes ) Or do track aimed at road. Speak to someone at a track to find out if they do courses like that.

I have arsed down the road a few times and lost it a bit. Crawling round bends and shitting it. It does creat stress and ruins the trip.

Depends on what you want out of biking.

As you say you can still break your neck on a track bike. Hell Forbid.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
valver wrote:


Keep at it dude Thumbs Up Come up north for a visit Thumbs Up


You putting me up for a night!? Wink Thumbs Up


Any time mate Thumbs Up Well apart from next week coz i'll be on holiday.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Death can go fvck himself if he thinks I'm giving up hooning my bike on his account, but only after he's kissed my @rse. His pussy brother, Serious Injury, can go take a flying w@nk at a rolling donut too.

Middle Finger to the pair of them, I p!ss and sh!t them for breakfast.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really.

After my last off I tend to take it more easy nowadays, I pick my times and moments to have fun more carefully now.
Ive never been on a track mind.

There are times and moments I think "Is it really worth it?" but I eventually come back to saying yes.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

valver wrote:
cc123 wrote:


You putting me up for a night!? Wink Thumbs Up


Any time mate Thumbs Up Well apart from next week coz i'll be on holiday.


Well, I'm away to a car event at the Pod this weekend, following weekend is Superbikes (you making the trip down for that?)
But I'll hold you to it.



Considering it just now, I have a few more runs organised over the next 4-6 weeks anyways, 1 trackday booked and I'll probably book another for August.

Road riding when I first got into the swing of things was great but I am put off by other road users actions, so many idiots out there but less than perfect road surfaces are a put off too.

I like my sports bikes, getting a cruiser or similar wouldn't be an option right now for me really. I want to get out, have a good quick blast, feel like I've done a work out when I'm finished and top off a good day with a beer.

3 times in 3 years its ended with me being on my arse down the road. Sad


Maybe in time I'll lose these thoughts but right now, look down these pages at the amount of 'offs' and deaths over these past few weeks. Chilling.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
Death can go fvck himself if he thinks I'm giving up hooning my bike on his account, but only after he's kissed my @rse. His pussy brother, Serious Injury, can go take a flying w@nk at a rolling donut too.

Middle Finger to the pair of them, I p!ss and sh!t them for breakfast.



It's nice to read a post from someone who's not stupidly serious about biking on here for change..... Laughing


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PostPosted: 21:39 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Hetzer wrote:
Death can go fvck himself if he thinks I'm giving up hooning my bike on his account, but only after he's kissed my @rse. His pussy brother, Serious Injury, can go take a flying w@nk at a rolling donut too.

Middle Finger to the pair of them, I p!ss and sh!t them for breakfast.



It's nice to read a post from someone who's not stupidly serious about biking on here for change..... Laughing


(Are you Ace Biker by any chance?)


I'm an ace biker, if that's what you're asking. That's why death doesn't mess with me, he's knows he'll find easier pickings elsewhere.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Re: Anyone feel like giving up road riding? Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:
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First trackday?

Pretty standard feeling. You'll get over it.
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Mick, heard about your 'antics' Twisted Evil


To be honest 10 years ago I was 10 times worse. I had a 1000EXUP and within the group I rode with I would always get where we where going 1st even though I was the youngest by a good 3 or 4 years.

Except the time I came over the hill going east bound on the A65 just before the settle roundabout at over 140 and spotted the copper at the bottom of the hill. Shocked

Everyone I was out with sailed by at 60 laughing and pointing whilst I got pulled over and was trying to worm my way out of it. Laughing

The main point to this is that I got caught doing 110 in a 30 and the week before I was in court I went to devils from mine on the EXUP with my best mate on the back (not forgetting that I was 21 at the time and knew I was getting banned rode like a fucking tool)

I was scraping the pegs all over the place and nailing it mid corner but not really scaring my mate but showing him how a bike can be ridden when you try. Laughing If I tried that now I know theres a good chance I would have got pulled or had an accident where it would be a possibility that I would have survived and my mate would have died. Thats the main reason I hav a single seater and will never ever take a pillion.

In fact the last time he got on the back of me on the GSXR400 I flipped it and his back is now fucked.

He now has an exup and was also best man at my wedding and is god parent to my little one so all is not bad.

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PostPosted: 23:36 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit i've developed a slightly carte blanche attitude of 'only the good die young' (well its my new answer when people prophesise my death).

Death by my error i can foresee, death by other peoples error id be just as fucked pussy footing along.

What concerns me is my new found numbness to most 'near miss' situations. I just react and forget instantly, which im sure is a bad sign.

But im pretty certain track days whilst fun will feel pretty sterile compared to road. Im pretty certain they kick you off trackdays for wheelies too... Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 19 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took me ages to get my confidence back after an off last September.

Couple of weeks ago went to Llandudno made good time there, no probs, loads of fast (for me!) overtakes on the A55, sun shining nice roads, felt great, was dashing back to be home in time for the school run when a bloody big rottwieler (sp?) ran out in front of me on the A41.

Missed it. just, was shaking like a jelly for a few minutes but my speed confidence has been shot.

Back to tootling round the 50-60mph mark again Sad
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:

What concerns me is my new found numbness to most 'near miss' situations. I just react and forget instantly, which im sure is a bad sign.


I have that exact same feeling. The amount of times I have been pulled out on then quickly found a gap to squeeze through and then thought nothing of it. Okay, fair enough, im only on a 125 but I get into shit on the road too Wink. I dont think its a bad thing, very much the opposite. If you are plonked in a 'near miss' situation on the road I would rather be able to deal with it, come out with no damages and not turn into a dithering mess. If you are too aware of the situation you will think too much and thinking takes too long on a bike Laughing.

I sometimes get worried about deaths and crashes you hear about on BCF and the news. At the end of the day though it boils down to the whole reason I ride a bike. Its nothing like driving a car or pretty much anything else I do and even though its dangerous I stick at it for the experience of riding. You never know though, I have only been riding a year and have had no crashes yet or even dropped my bike so my opinion might change.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt06 wrote:
...been riding a year and have had no crashes yet or even dropped my bike so my opinion might change.


'Those that have and those that will'

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PostPosted: 08:01 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Heard it claimed that from a psycological point of view a near miss scares you in the short term but in the longer term makes you more dangerous as you are more inclined to ignore the risk.

Matt06 wrote:
If you are too aware of the situation you will think too much and thinking takes too long on a bike Laughing.


Idea is to know the situation so you do not have to react quickly should it turn nasty. For example, if you go up the inside of an HGV on a small roundabout you are going to struggle to avoid being squished, or you could have an extra seconds planning and just hang back so you are not beside it.

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PostPosted: 08:07 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll never give up road riding. My recent, quite nasty, incident has done nothing but reinforce my need to be on a bike. Is it bad that i'm looking forward to the insurance payout so I can buy a bigger, faster bike? Nope.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the older you get you are also less careless and maybe think more about others and your life in general.

My mum and girlfriend worry like mad about me having a bike and you've got to consider family feelings I suppose.

Most of these thoughts go out my head once I'm actually on the bike but I just seem more aware of my surroundings.

Maybe I just need to get away out from my normal roads and go places where I don't know and see if I'm still affected.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilredmachine wrote:
i'll never give up road riding. My recent, quite nasty, incident has done nothing but reinforce my need to be on a bike. Is it bad that i'm looking forward to the insurance payout so I can buy a bigger, faster bike? Nope.

i'm in that boat. waiting on insurance now to fund a newer, bigger and faster bike. not to say i haven't toyed with the idea of stopping, but i would not be able to bring myself to do it. biking's too much a part of me now, risks and all. it's just too much fun.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 20 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cc123 wrote:


I like my sports bikes, getting a cruiser or similar wouldn't be an option right now for me really. I want to get out, have a good quick blast, feel like I've done a work out when I'm finished and top off a good day with a beer.

3 times in 3 years its ended with me being on my arse down the road. Sad


Maybe in time I'll lose these thoughts but right now, look down these pages at the amount of 'offs' and deaths over these past few weeks. Chilling.


To be honest it does sound like you're pushing hard on the road. I was the same a few years ago - I'd get back from a ride having had a few near misses - dodgy overtakes mostly - and not give it another thought.

Now I'm a much slower and more careful rider and usually get back home without any close calls. I still enjoy it just as much though and try to focus my concentration on riding smoother. At the end of the day I love my bike but I have a wife and 2 kids that I want to come home to. Yes, there are still risks, but you can reduce them massively by the way you ride. Treat the road like a trackday and its a matter of time before it goes wrong. However, people get their enjoyment in different ways - if you can only get it from 'a blast' then you're probably wise to save it for the track.

Maybe look at further training if you havent already - bikesafe's a good start. If you get nothing out of it then you know its the thrill seeking side of biking you love, so maybe track days/racing is the way to go. On the other hand you might be surprised and find that once you start learning new techniques it reinvigorates your road riding in different ways.
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