Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Running in - beginners guide?

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

yambabe
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:37 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Running in - beginners guide? Reply with quote

I know it's been cobvered a million times before, but I really need your advice on running in a new bike.

I have asked Himself and he has very helpfully ( Rolling Eyes ) said "just keep it to about half throttle for the first 500 miles or so". That's not going to be easy when the very first ride is 50-odd miles up the M6........ Confused I rang the dealer and he said they will give me a "basics" talk when I go to pick it up but that will only be for about 5 minutes apparently! Shocked

Having done a search I am seeing lots of different advice given re amount of throttle to use, how long for etc etc.

I really want to get this right so I am asking for the benefit of your collective experience.

The bike is an 805cc v-twin cruiser, 5-speed, carbs, shaft drive, not sure of revs/power/torque/speed yet.

I have several free weekends/evenings after I have collected it and am aiming for at least 200-250 miles a week for the first month or so to get this sorted.
____________________
Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate. Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

_Will_
World Chat Champion



Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:44 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go by, half revs 500miles then another 1/4 till 1000 and it seems to do the trick. Thumbs Up
Vary the throttle usage dont just sit at one speed for long periods.
____________________
Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50|
| 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|
| 2005|Kawasaki Z750s | | 2006 Yamaha FZ6 Fazer |
|| 1999 Cbr1100xx Blackbird ||
||| 2000 Kawasaki Zx12R ||| (|2009 Street Triple R |) // 2004 Honda Hornet Streetfighter \\|=| 2000 BMW R1100S |=| ------ My Bikepics page ------
Suffering Bike Withdrawal.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

thegubner
World Chat Champion



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 00:54 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dealer will tell you.

I don't think the rev limit on running in is the same for every bike, your best bit is to listen to them, 5 mins should be plenty of time for them to tell you what revs not to exceed for however many miles on your particular bike.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mr.z
World Chat Champion



Joined: 04 Feb 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:02 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the wrong thing to be doing is a motorway journey first, it'll do it but its not good for it, imo take the scenic route even its its very out of the way

+Got to be careful not to labour the engine either, i.e. low revs, high gear, a friend rebuilt one for somebody and it transpired he'd been doing this (because it sounds cool, and it does) and it'd killed it, twice Sad (from new)

imo as long as its being used at varying speeds carefully, being warmed up propperly e.t.c. it should be fine, some say spang the tats off it and have had good results that way (in fact ive hered not giveing it the odd burst can leave it unable to produce max power later on down the line)

Good luck, what bike is it btw?
____________________
>RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes<
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

yambabe
World Chat Champion



Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 01:16 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a VS800 Intruder. Please don't laugh at the blurry pic, I reckon it's cos Himself is crap at photos whereas he says it's cos I was so excited I was bouncing........... Embarassed

https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/Yambabe/03022007013.jpg

https://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/Yambabe/09062007097.jpg
____________________
Sod falling in love, I wanna fall in chocolate. Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Pete.
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Aug 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 05:58 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use middle-of-the-range revs and varying load is my advice.

Avoid thrashing it up the revs range or labouring it down low.
____________________
a.k.a 'Geri'

132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

tonshar
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 24 May 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:35 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Babyyam,

as you know I have just got mine and have been told by several different people and the salesman to ride it normally but not to strain the engine, eg. going up hills keep it in a low gear, if in towns use the low gears and not the higher gears and make it struggle. I haven't gone too fast as yet because of running it in but was also told to keep it to the speed limits until its first service and it will be fine. First service should be between 500 and 600 miles.

I think its a great bike and I am loving every minute and I think you will be the same Very Happy
____________________
CBT Passed, Theory Passed - Practical Passed 9/6/07 Smile
Suzuki Intruder C800 & Suzuki Bandit 650
I am a female biker Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

G
The Voice of Reason



Joined: 02 Feb 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:49 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual manufacturers guidelines generally seem to be something like 1/2 revs for the first 500 miles, then increasing to full revs gradually over the next 500.
Just be pleased it's not a brand new 125cc 4 stroke Smile.

As mentioned, also to not keep the engine at constant revs and not to 'strain' the engine.

Guidelines should be in your owners manual.

Some people now recommend a much harsher running procedure which may give tighter tolerances. For instance my 675 was run in on a dyno in 38 miles!
Details about more intense running in:
https://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
These usually talk about sports bikes, but then sports bikers are more likely to be worried about such things Smile.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

MarJay
But it's British!



Joined: 15 Sep 2003
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:55 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key is to not hold it at constant revs at all.

A ride down the M6 is probably about the worst thing you can do, unless its stop start traffic.

However I'm sure a short ride won't hurt.

Get it home quickly and then don't hold it at constant revs.
____________________
British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Jull
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:21 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told no more than 5000 revs for the first 500 miles,then up it a 1000 revs each 100 miles after (600 miles - 6000 revs, 700 miles - 7000 revs etc)

Enjoy Very Happy
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Finglonga
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:54 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
The key is to not hold it at constant revs at all.


Bang on! Never run a bike in just ride it as normal after the first 100miles, even 2 up. As long as the engine isn't as said at constant revs or being strained there will be no problems.(this applies to big engined bikes 1000cc+, not sure how a smaller engine might cope). Thumbs Up
____________________
Andy Sez....
F.Y.Y.F.F.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

veeeffarr
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:59 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
The key is to not hold it at constant revs at all.

A ride down the M6 is probably about the worst thing you can do, unless its stop start traffic.

However I'm sure a short ride won't hurt.

Get it home quickly and then don't hold it at constant revs.


I agree that the M6 would probably shaft it
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

JonB
Afraid of Mileage



Joined: 03 Jun 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:02 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the M6 would shaft it.

Actually, could actually be quite fun, do loads of overtakes, just come off the throttle and back on often.
____________________
Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

veeeffarr
Super Spammer



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:12 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
I don't think the M6 would shaft it.

Actually, could actually be quite fun, do loads of overtakes, just come off the throttle and back on often.


What is the top speed of an 800cc cruiser? I'm just saying if you do go over 70 on the mway you're probably using high revs...

Not like you can keep rolling on from 40mph.

T
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

st3v3
Super Spammer



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:32 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went no higher than half the redline for about 500 miles, then took it weasy for another 150ish, then used it like normal, after a month or so, ragged it a bit and it's pretty much ok. (can't say if it will die out soon tho..*touches wood it don't* Laughing
____________________
Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

dabigginger
Crazy Courier



Joined: 28 Oct 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:10 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree with everyone else, avoid the motorway. Go on the normal streets, avoid labouring the engine. Keep at roughly half the maximum revs for the running in period with no more than half throttle (most of the time).

But, don't be afraid to open it up from time to time. The engine will still be tight, but once you feel it doesn't really want to go any further (use your sixth sense here), change up.

This is how I ran the engine in for my project car (small, high revving (for a car) supercharged engine), and it's been fine. Okay, it's a car engine, but an engine is an engine at the end of the day.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

tristan
Crazy Courier



Joined: 03 May 2007
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:32 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know what the revs go to on that thing, but i didnt eexceed 7,000 out of possible 12,000rpm redline if that helps.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Robby
Dirty Old Man



Joined: 16 May 2002
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:41 - 21 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have a vx800, which uses the same engine, gearbox, shaft drive etc.

Mine was torquey and quite free revving, nice engine.

So as a guideline, keep below half redline, vary the revs, don't strain the engine, basically ride in the correct gear and don't thrash it.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

mistergixer
World Chat Champion



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:11 - 22 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:

Guidelines should be in your owners manual.



RTFM.

Thumbs Up
____________________
Space Monkey #7
Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
Mistergixer's videos on YouTube
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

doggone
World Chat Champion



Joined: 20 May 2004
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:15 - 22 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone actually experienced an issue caused by 'not running in'?
I'm inclined to think its a load of BS.

There's a website somewhere advocates running the engine as hot as possible first time out for maximum power in later life.

Pussying around gently might be a good idea until you get the feel of the new one - maybe that's why they still recommend it, to avoid losing repeat customers Wink
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

geordiecbrblo...
Trackday Trickster



Joined: 17 Jul 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:22 - 22 Jun 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let it warm up and ride it normally and it will be fine i.e. don't thrash it and don't let it labour / bog down Thumbs Up

Easy peasy Mr. Green
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 18 years, 338 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> General Bike Chat All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.12 Sec - Server Load: 1.9 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 116.29 Kb