Anyone ever built a garage?

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Anyone ever built a concrete garage?
I have one on order but no base laid yet.
How much would it cost for a base? Roughly.
I'm having a ball trying to get a couple of the lazy bstds to just lay a floor for me.
I hate builders.
They weren't bright at school and haven't improved with age either.

(If you are a builder and wish to quote please ignore that last wee joke... Embarassed

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plugger147 · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Karma :

Get your shovel out it's not that difficult. Laughing

Or even hire a mini digger for the day and sort the footings out, a few crates of beer and a barbie going a few mates and it'll be done in no time. It won't be level but the water will run off nice. Very Happy

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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

Piece of piss to get level. You even get self levelling tile grout, so just throw that on top of some crushed concrete if your feeling flush.

Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

Well thanks for the help lads... Thumbs Up

Hard work is not hard work to me you see. But my time is precious.
You need a cert to drive a digger.
Most hire shops I have asked state that.

It is a dead easy project.
Dig out to 6" leaving 3' more on each end and side.
Shutter in ensuring level.
Mini batcher will hoi the cement in.
Spread and screed.
I think the surface has then to be floated to bring some fat up and leave a smooth surface.
I can do the lecy etc, myself.

I can see a 'quality job' will be done if I mix some alcohol with concrete.... Laughing

Ya dafties. Mr. Green

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Walloper · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Karma :

I wasn't going to bother burying a SWA. I'll just bring an extension reel from the kitchen.... Smile

I will run the cable to my Sparkie's instruction. I don't need to have him hanging around for that. He has a life.
I am only the donkey in this project.

My mate will connect to a consumer box in the new building.
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leiba1 · Trackday Trickster Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Karma :

You don't want the floor to be level as in flat and level. You want it to be even but with an ever so gentle slope towards the door or a drain for run off.

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leiba1 · Trackday Trickster Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Karma :

As long as all the sides where the walls are going to sit are level with each other, then you could still incorporate a slope for drainage in the actual working area. But, as this seems to be an 'off the shelf' garage, that might create an unacceptable gap under the garage door.

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

You don't want a fall on a workshop floor - at all. The place won't be swimming in water inside and if you got a spill you can sweep it to the door.

Guv'nor that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen you post, tile grout on crushed concrete as a floor base - really!

Walloper, just make the floor slab flat and level, as they say. Once you have dug your base, assuming you aren't going to bother with mesh or anything just put down a 1000-gauge DPM (£15 from wickes) as a waterproof membrane and pour in the concrete. Using a power-float is a good idea for a rock-hard finish, otherwise tamp it down and screed over (or not).

I'm seriously considering buying one of these for a new workshop, and reinforcing the walls with 1" jablite polystyrene for insulation then 18mm ply on the inside:

https://dhlogcabins.co.uk/uk/product/83/445/5m-x-5m-severn-5-28-log-cabin
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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

Geri

Its only stupid if someone is stupid enough to take it seriously. Rolling Eyes

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kawakid · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Karma :

Yeahh I paid someone to do it for me also.

I asked were I got my garage from and they new someone.

Only charged a few hundred quid and they also knocked the old garage down (I had a new one made bigger).

You don't need to bother mixing the cement, all the guys did is went down to local building yard and the just brought it all back on the back of a flat bed.

To do the base they just boxed it all round with planks, filled in the hole and then just smoothed off with another plank.

One word of warning get the biggest garage you can.

I could have gone 2 foot wider with no impact to my garden, but I didn't to save a rather nice rose bush. Which I totally regret now.
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iloveriding · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 May 2007 Karma :

I am a builder, I have built many things including garages, I have pasted a few pics of a garage I built for my cousin, It cost her just under £1500.00 (I didnt charge her labour. The costings was for materials only.
Look at the pictures and you want advice feel free to ask. I could talk you through it for you to build yourself.
This garage is 1 and half times the size of most garages and out of the £1500 came £400 for the door alone. (as it was not a standard door size.
Tony
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

2 and a half grand for a 6" base (mesh or no) is simply outrageous. It simply cannot be justified. Did you get a cost break-down?
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tristan · Crazy Courier Joined: 03 May 2007 Karma :

Love the way general bike chat forum has building threads, with pics n' all Mr. Green

Entertaining me anyways. Thumbs Up

Diggs · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Karma :

If you want advice on planning permission (as this seems to have become the 'development' thread...), ask away... Its what I do for a living...
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iloveriding · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 May 2007 Karma :

Don't float finish the floor mate,
Use a long board, If the garage floor is less than 13 foot then use a scaffolding board. Turn it on its side and nail a piece of batten each end to act as handles.
Lay the concrete into your base (assuming all your shuttering is level all around)
Move the board from side to side, You should be scrapping the top of the concrete. Do this for about 3 foot then with the board go back to where you started and you and your friend tap (its called tamping) all the way to where you scrapped from side to side.
This should bring all the fat of the cement to the top. (it will look like the floor is covered in grey water but trust me)
Continue this all the way to the end.
Obviously when your scrapping with the board if there are some low spots chuck some cement in to it.
Don't play with it now. Wait until tomorrow and have a look. If the cement is dry and cool to touch through a bag of course sand over the whole floor and with a stiff broom brush the sand about and then get rid of it. This will act like a sander and smooth your garage floor enough for you to use.
Wait atlest 24 hour before putting anything heavy on the concrete.
If you float finish the garage floor in the winter you will end up with a ice rink
Tony
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iloveriding · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 May 2007 Karma :

of course if you do want a float finish the time to do it is in the 2 foot stages, Gently run a plastic or wooden float (NOT A PLASTERING TROWEL) over the tamped area. You will see lines where you have floated up but again with the sand and stiff brush they will go.
Tony
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Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Hand-floating isn't really a beginner's job, you could end-up with a floor with a poor surface. Better to use a power-float. Still not really a beginner's job but requires less skill and gives a rock-hard surface.
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iloveriding · Trackday Trickster Joined: 24 May 2007 Karma :

You really need experience to use a power float Geri, I have seen a ground worker set the blades up wrong and chew up nearly set concrete, Cost a lot of money to put right, That with out the damage to the float.
As said also I wouldn't advise a floated finish in a garage.
But that's just my professional opinion.
Tony
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