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Roco1970
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 26 Jul 2007    Post subject: Bike skills Reply with quote

I just wondered if you can still develop riding skills on a smaller bike like my cbr 125 or do you only learn best on a powerful bike. Sick
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 26 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you trying to start a flame war?
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 26 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can only get bike skills on the '98 R1 and as of yet no one has ridden it.

So we're all jut a bunch of lunatics on the road Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Re: Bike skills Reply with quote

Roco1970 wrote:
I just wondered if you can still develop riding skills on a smaller bike like my cbr 125 or do you only learn best on a powerful bike. Sick


The most crucial skills to keep you safe are those of defensive riding and observation. You can practise these on a push-bike, you don't need to have a 160BHP leviathan!

Once you start cutting about on a 500cc DAS bike, you'll soon see that having more power makes things a bit easier, so if you can ride a 125 safely while making progress, you'll comfortably manage the same on an ER5.

Concentrate on your stopping distances, reaction gaps, predicting traffic movements, observing junctions and side-roads, situational awareness, the effects of weather on all the above - etc.

Having more power and a bigger bike just makes all the above pop up that little faster, so it's actually a good thing to practise it on a smaller bike first!
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PostPosted: 02:49 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

define riding skills?

safety?

Knee downs?

Generally riding like on a track or safely on the roads?
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the *Sick * face Neutral ?
I really don't see the attraction to get some powerful bike, which everyone else seems too.
Maybe it's cause I rode horses a lot when I was younger, no one in their right mind would jump on some oated up thoroughbred unless they had some decent riding experience first.
In my honest opinion it's better to learn on the safe little pony then start riding the frisky hot blood when you have no experience.
I don't mean to say I wouldn't want a bigger bike, just not yet.
Doubt I'd last long on one.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You miss out on vital skills if you don't ride a smaller bike. Learning to have road presence and defending your road position primary amongst them.

A 125 rider will know all about the wind blast to be found around an HGV and even how to use it to facilitate an overtake. You also learn how to hold your cornering speed.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicky-Jano wrote:
I really don't see the attraction to get some powerful bike, which everyone else seems too.
Maybe it's cause I rode horses a lot when I was younger, no one in their right mind would jump on some oated up thoroughbred unless they had some decent riding experience first.
In my honest opinion it's better to learn on the safe little pony then start riding the frisky hot blood when you have no experience.
I don't mean to say I wouldn't want a bigger bike, just not yet.
Doubt I'd last long on one.


Which is why the current limits on what size bike you can have were brought in.... Far to many young lives were lost after passing their tests after riding a >250 then jumping straight onto a 1000 and finding that wall or tree look so atractive that they decided that was where they would end their short lives.

You learn you riding skills on a small bike, as someone else said how to keep your speed in the corners, knowing how to keep out of the dangerous situations. Once you do get a bigger bike then you hone them even more. As there are new limits and skills to be had.

The best skills are learnt on a small bike as its staying out of trouble and alive that counts, not how fast you can get from A to B.

There is no god given rule that YOU HAVE TO get a larger bike, that is upto you want you want to ride.
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Roco1970
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 27 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx for the tips ive just gone back to bikes after 15 years in a car and im loving it, but i dont have much confidence yet but its getting better.
I have memories of my old ar 80 ending up on the deck with me under it Embarassed, the main reason i wanted another bike is to commute to work.
I got a new cbr 125 and its fast enough for me regardless of what people say about them, i intend to get my restricted licence and after the 2 years then move to a big bike.
I like the idea of a big bike but i dont feel ready for that yet and im enjoying this little cbr ive had it 3 weeks and done 930 miles on it. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all seriousness go DAS. You are old enough. The difference in course price is minimal and the test is exactly the same apart from the size bike you do it on.

It means you can ride a bike with more than 33bhp if you need/want to but you don't have to.

Personally I choose to ride a 24bhp machine but I have the option there if I need it. Which was kind of handy when I was lent a CB500 over the winter.
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