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Blunet600
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: From 125 to 600. But which 600? experience or advice needed. Reply with quote

Currently on the nsr125, but i have started looking at bigger bikes, my plan was to go an R6 04 model after the nsr, but i have seen other bikes such as the hornet which i like. So i am open to any bike and suggestion on bikes, if you ride or rode a 600, what bike was it and would you recommend.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did exactly the same as you, I went from a 125 to a 600. Personally, I went from a TZR125 to a Diversion 600. The Diversion was a great bike to learn how to handle bigger things on, I found the steering very heavy for about 20 seconds, then my brain switched over to "heavy thing" mode.

As for you... well you mentioned getting an R6 04 model. Which would mean that something like a Diversion would probably have little interest to you. You haven't said how old you are or what license you have... If you are required by law to have your bike restricted then I'd strongly suggest that you get the bike restricted to 33bhp for a good few months at the very least, to give you a bit more of a steady curve to learn at.

Though, on an R6, that curve is going to be pretty steep.

How old are you? How long have you been riding? Have you checked how much your insurance will be on an R6?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went fomr a 125 to 600 Bandit 98. Its a fun bike, Not too power full like an R6 lol but powerfull enough. Well it was for me.
I still have it now and enjoy it.
I personally wouldnt trust myself from a 125 to a sports 600 R6 right away.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what you're looking for in a bike...
Personally I can't stand Bandits (sorry Louise Wink), find them incredibly boring. Great urban commuter though.
The R6 is a fantastic piece of kit, very light, powerful, handles beautifully. Not cripplingly uncomfortable like some of the sportsbikes around.
The SV650S is a very nice bike too, lots of torque, very even power delivery, extremely easy to ride - and it's only insurance group 9 (or 10?) - though after about 105mph it runs out of steam...
The old-style Fazers are excellent too, very powerful and comfortable, great handling - you can ride them like a sportsbike or a tourer, but they aren't built for high speed. You will suffer from the effects of windblast far far more on a Fazer than you would on an SV, R6 or any other bike with a sporty setup.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went from a moped to a full power R6 at 19. Not as bad as people make them out to be, was actually surprised at how easy they are to control at slow speeds, something i thought they couldn't do well, as it ''wants to kill you''. Smile
They're not the best first bikes as there's much more cheaper bikes like the Hornet which isn't exactly slow.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly my intentions aswell, my only fear is the weight of the bike difference.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
Went from a moped to a full power R6 at 19. Not as bad as people make them out to be, was actually surprised at how easy they are to control at slow speeds, something i thought they couldn't do well, as it ''wants to kill you''. Smile
They're not the best first bikes as there's much more cheaper bikes like the Hornet which isn't exactly slow.


I found the R6 very user-friendly aswell. Much moreso than the new style Fazer, which made me feel like I had to learn to ride all over again.
But the thing is so bloody powerful, it's one of those bikes that just inspires lunacy.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evo wrote:
Exactly my intentions aswell, my only fear is the weight of the bike difference.


I had that problem when I started with big bikes...you have to a be a lot smoother on the brakes and at slow speeds. I nearly dropped my Fazer several times (including a few wrestling it up off my leg incidents) because I rode it like I rode the 125 - coming to a stop at a slight angle etc.
It doesn't take too long to get used to though. And the R6 is very light compared to a Fazer...
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the power was that scary for me as i knew i was in control, the only way it's going to hit that red line is if you make it. Just pootling around town at slow speeds lets you know how much control you're in, it's when you start getting used to the bike things start to get scary. Very Happy
Apart from the weight, i found it much easier to ride then my test CG-125 as it's more smooth, you don't need alot of revs & the overall handling, grip & brakes.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
I don't think the power was that scary for me as i knew i was in control, the only way it's going to hit that red line is if you make it. Just pootling around town at slow speeds lets you know how much control you're in, it's when you start getting used to the bike things start to get scary. Very Happy
Apart from the weight, i found it much easier to ride then my test CG-125 as it's more smooth, you don't need alot of revs & the overall handling, grip & brakes.


Agreed. I wasn't great on the 125s, in fact on my DAS before we got on the 500s my instructor warned me that he might pull me off the 500 and put me on a 125 because he was concerned about my riding. But I was actually far better at riding a 500 than I ever was on a 125.
They feel like proper bikes, rather than toys.
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just made done the jump from my RS125 to Gixxer 600 about 2 weeks ago.

Weight isn't really a problem for me and I haven't noticed that much of a difference especially when traveling at speed.

The major difference is the acceleration. I've gone for a few overtaking maneuvers and when I look down at the speedo it comes as a surprise just how fast you can get up to speed.

It's also so easy to ride. With the RS you had to be in virtually the right gear for every turn, with the Gixxer is doesn't really matter what gear you are in, as the engine just keeps on pulling, so it is very forgiving either on a weekend blast or commuting through town.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodger wrote:
I've just made done the jump from my RS125 to Gixxer 600 about 2 weeks ago.

Weight isn't really a problem for me and I haven't noticed that much of a difference especially when traveling at speed.

The major difference is the acceleration. I've gone for a few overtaking maneuvers and when I look down at the speedo it comes as a surprise just how fast you can get up to speed.

It's also so easy to ride. With the RS you had to be in virtually the right gear for every turn, with the Gixxer is doesn't really matter what gear you are in, as the engine just keeps on pulling, so it is very forgiving either on a weekend blast or commuting through town.


Well that's nice to know since I'm contemplating the jump from my Aprilia RS125 (which happens to be identical to yours) to a 400-600cc bike and the thing I was most worried about was weight...
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably say this too often but:

go out and test-ride them and see which one you like!
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

not really ridden any small bikes,first bike is a bandit not amazingly powerfull,but loads of fun to be had and cheap to buy and run,i recommend them anyway,even if it's just untill you get comfortable enough to get something more powerfull,have fun.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

im 19.With full motorcycle License, Did my A2 test. I wont need to restrict it. and im open to all bikes suggested, will be looking them all up.lol
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 28 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two very different bikes....!!

What traits are you after in your choice of bike?? Sport, comfort, commuting....

..is this going to be your only mode of transport, and are you going to be using it everyday for commuting? etc
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSRdude wrote:
im 19.With full motorcycle License, Did my A2 test. I wont need to restrict it



Uhh... Yes you will. Legally, that is.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stepped up from a RS125 to a CBR600F. Weight etc didnt seem too much of a problem once I'd got used to it.

I wouldnt discount the hornet just yet, its a good all rounder and looking back I would have liked one of them for my first bigger bike (if I wasnt obsessed with plastics!).

Before you plump for the R6 look at the whole range of 6's in your price range and try and get a go on a few, the guarantee is that whatever 600 you get on will feel like a rocket ship!

As always take it easy for the first few miles and go progressive Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i wont, I passed my test 2 years ago. Isnt it once you pass your test, after 2 years of holding it you do not need to restrict the bike to 33bhp.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSRdude wrote:
No i wont, I passed my test 2 years ago. Isnt it once you pass your test, after 2 years of holding it you do not need to restrict the bike to 33bhp.


In that case then you won't need to restrict it.

I just thought it a little odd that you passed your test 2 years ago, yet were still riding a 125.
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PostPosted: 15:09 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 125 has been enough for me over the last two years, didnt want to get a bigger bike, i thought i might as well use the 125 until my license is no longer restricted to 33bhp. Hence now why im looking for a 600.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hopped from a CG125 to a 95 CBR600F.

Pulls very well and a perfect step up bike imo, having tested a modern CBR600RR the other day I do believe that had I gotten on that after my 125 I would have probably crashed it, it does exactly what you tell it to, to the letter. So if, like me you will give your bike some gobbledy gook on occasion for the first 8 odd weeks or so then it might get you into trouble.


Of course you have 2 years experience on what is a lot quicker than a CG125 so your mileage will vary naturally.

Phone up some dealers and ask them for a test ride.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude you checked insurance quotes on the bikes you want ?

Just done it with me and looks like plans will have to change considering insurance is over twice the cost of the bike(£9000)
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was riding a CG for 9months before i got my ZX6R, and i did'nt really have any problems with it at all. The hardest thing to get used of is the riding position which feels all wrong at first when you have been sat bolt upright for ages. Ride along a dual carriageway at 80mph, and you soon see the benefits of the sporty riding position and fairing though!

I also agree that big bikes are easy to ride, with the exception of the poor turning circle of sportsbikes, and the less nimble feeling in traffic etc. And yes they only start to get scary once you have got used to them!
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 29 Jul 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evo wrote:
Dude you checked insurance quotes on the bikes you want ?

Just done it with me and looks like plans will have to change considering insurance is over twice the cost of the bike(£9000)


Did you shop around, because that's ridiculous. Or do you just live in a bad area etc. ?
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