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P_J
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Save fuel? yeah right Reply with quote

What the hell is this

https://www.dcct.org

I keep getting emails (bypassing my spam filter) about "Saving money on gas", obviously American, and "Maximise Power" "Improves efficiency"...

In theory, if you read it, it sounds ok, but im thinking that its a pile of shit and i shouldnt be taking any notice of it.

Has anyone heard of, or actualy tried this thing out? Would anyone try it out? and, would it have any effect on a 2smoke, assuming it actualy does what it claims?

It says "WORKS ON ALL VEHICLES.. ANY MODEL, ANY YEAR!" works on gas(assuming peterol is the same) diesel and propane gas" "For all engines (4,6, & 8 cylinder) Gas or diesel"
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It is probably just a magnet to clip round the fuel line. Not likely to do anything useful at all.

All the best

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PostPosted: 10:16 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

its $89.95!

Thats about fifty quid!

Also, its HUGE, about the size of half a brick. Seems like money for old rope to me. I can't see it working somehow.

Even if its just a huge magnet, I don't really see what that does any better than a magnetic oil filter or something.

Sounds a bit like that mobile phone pyramid scheme we had on here last week. Cough *ripoff* cough.

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PostPosted: 10:16 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't seen that one before but you can get a thing over here called an ecotech valve which does the same thing and actually does work.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Operates on the principle of RESONANCE, utilizing a double chamber frequency with phased frequency modulation.


Hehe! Translation:

Quote:
Hey guys lets just link a load of physics/wave type buzzwords together and make a mint!


Quote:
Because the fracturing of hydrocarbon chains occurs only when the fuel is passed through the FUEL SAVER booster .When the engine is turned off, the fracturing of hydrocarbon chains stops. The phenomena of fracturing the hydrocarbon chains only can be induced by the FUEL SAVER.


Hmmm. Actually, fracturing hydrocarbon chains or 'cracking' is the only way you make petrol from crude oil. Do they expect me to believe a process which requires hundreds of degrees centigrade can be done with 'resonance'.

They've made it sound vaguely plausible, but I still can't believe it.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

My thinking (not that I've even looked at the web site) is that if these things worked so well don't you think the car industry et al would be already using them as standard.

After all they try to give maximum efficiency and performance from an engine while keeping longevity these days. Rolling Eyes

So to summarize, don't waste your money.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

They sell those in the UK, if i remember rightly the 'magnet' sifts through the particles either charging them or rearranging them, some of our customers who operate HGV's use them and claim they get a cut in fuel burn and an increace in efficency. may be worth a look at if you got the cash to burn, I wouldn't expact amazing results, but if your an HGV operator spending upwards of £15K a year on fuel every penny counts Smile
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 26 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had a simar thing fitted on a car i once had they called it an ecotec valve (the bloke who had it before me fitted it)
It intreged me so i removed it to see if it made any difference and to my supprise it did !! Midrange poke just wasn't there and after about 100 miles it seemed to be drinking more go juice ,so it went back on .Not sure if it would work on a bike though ,but if it works on a car it should in theory work on a bike .Let me know if anyone trys it
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 27 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the difference was noticed by you and not actually measured etc? Have you ever though it could of been in your head?

Bit like a placebo?

I would love to actually get one and get a car/bike whatever setup on a rolling road and have everything measured to see if it made any difference though.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 27 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

This intrigued me so i had a good poke around the net, and all the stuff about the ecotek valve is positive, i'm even considering getting one for my car.

All the reviews say it increases throttle response and midrange, not all of them get an increase in fuel economy, only about half do, the rest stay the same.

Still, anything which can improve my golf at all is worth it for 50 quid.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 27 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:

Still, anything which can improve my golf at all is worth it for 50 quid.


Well it would double the value of your car anyways...
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 27 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly would. The golf has improved a bit from when you last saw it tho, it now has rear speakers, working brakes, and since this morning it now starts first time (the points were totally closed up.)
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just found out we use them on all our vans at work and they do actually save on fuel, I even fitted one to a Rexton today. (Big 4x4 car like a land rover)
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Ste
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how does putting a magnet around the fuel line actually improve the efficency of an engine? Confused (Please dont quote thier sales stuff, as its bullshit! )
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
So how does putting a magnet around the fuel line actually improve the efficency of an engine? Confused (Please dont quote thier sales stuff, as its bullshit! )
I really don't know but it does work, i'm not sure about the performance gains but it does make fuel economy better.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got an email from another company, Fuelcat, yesterday after I asked them a few questions about fitting there product to 2 strokes and small (125) engines.

Guys from Fuelcat wrote:
Dear Peter,
Over last 14 years have done many Fuelcat's to two stroke car and bike units. The benefits include quieter, in most cases, and smoother running engine, with more power. Fuelcat acts as an octane booster, so making fuel burn better. It works with petrol, diesel, oil and kerozine. We do units for lawnmowers to ocean going ships etc. You need tank unit up to 750cc, which as it implies, just drops in the tank. Lasts for 250,000 miles and of course comes with a money back guarantee. (PJ SEZ - ASSUMING YOU CAN FISH THE THING BACK OUT) It also allows use of unleaded instead of leaded fuel. The White Helmets display team have been using unleaded instead of leaded for last 3 years, without problems.
You may buy on line through our secure page.
Regards Philip

Guys from Fuelcat, again wrote:
Forgot to mention as unit is in tank, it stops fuel degenerating in tank, so fuel is always fresh.


This one is £25 quid. Is there any point? £5 will, if i ride sensibly, take me about 80 miles, will it really improve it that much that id notice from paying £5?


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PostPosted: 20:19 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think of the long term costs and it may improve performance, i'm getting one for my car in the next day or two.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where u getting it from kev?

See if they'll offer you a discount for two? Smile


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PostPosted: 20:22 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting it through my work and I don't even know how much it is.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the make? You know that?

You recon you would be able to get a second from them?

Maybe you could have a word? Assuming that the one your going to get will go in or on an NSR.


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PostPosted: 20:31 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its called ecoflow but I may be wrong, With things like that you cant really get a discount for buying just 2 of them. The one for the car is about £40 and the ones for bikes are about £20 and if you want one I can get you one but it would be just as cheap for you to get one online somewhere.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 28 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is an Ecoflow.PLC.uk and LTD.uk

No mention of a bike one there but they are mentioned > Here < for bikes at £28 for an 'Ecoflow 4'.

Would you find out for me what price they are, depending on which is cheeper, you got any problems getting one for me and ill buy from you?


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PostPosted: 09:37 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

What car Mr keving?
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jo`s new diesel one.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you catch the price of them, Kev or can you not get a second one from them?


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