can it be done...is it worth it?

kd · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 09 May 2003 Karma :

i was looking at buying honda's new xr125l....but its a 4 stroke...i found this about it

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=https://www.honda-geneve.com/catalog/XR125L-2003.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhonda%2Bxr125l%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN

quite a big link...but n e way, how fast could that go...de-restricted...heres the question where u might just think i am a total newb...can it be wheelied...and is it worth it, its £1,999 brand spanking new Surprised

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Please refer to all the other million threads about buying new 125's, and the pros and cons of two stroke vs. four stroke. In short, no its not worth it, and yes it can be wheelied, but not at all easily and doesn't have the power needed.

It will do about 70-75 and is not restricted, it is supplied in full power form.

Spend £1,000 tops, and get an older 125 2 stroke, pass your test and move on.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

1. It's a new bike, see all previous comments/experiences about new bikes.

2. It's a 4stroke 125 (little more power than a £300 cg125) so won't be designed to be deresticted.
Remember with new bikes you have to run them in for 1000 miles... so that's probably 1000 miles staying at under 40-50mph if not less with bugger all acceleration.

3. Yes, but you need a /lot/ of skill to wheelie 125s well. I've only seen one person doing it on a road based 125 properly, they were obviously extremely talented (as anyone who's seen the ace cafe vid will realise) and I'm sure he learned on bigger bikes.
Pretty much all bikes can be wheelied... though many will drop down straight away. The less power you have the harder it is to keep it up. With something like this you would have to get it to exactly the right heightby dumping clutch and bouncing at just the right point. Means you're a lot more likely to flip when it goes wrong.

kd · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 09 May 2003 Karma :

i have looked in the free ads, and bike trader the thing is...i h8 cg's and thats the only one thats really on there, all my m8s have 125 scramblers, so when we go off road i dont wanna be caught dead on a cg...doesnt look right, i mean i'm not dissging the cg, its a honda classic, but it doesnt go with what i want with riding
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Ok... Spend ~£800 on an older 125, and then spend a bit and get yourself a 250 field bike and leave them all standing. By going off roading etc on it as well you'll probably knock a fair bit more off the resale value on it. Do all your mates have shiney new 125 scramblers?

You're wasting your money by going new. However its your money and I don't really care TBH if you waste it. Only trying to stop people making the same mistakes I've made along the line.

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

try looking for an older Derbi Senda 125, i think they are 2 strokes, fairly cheap to buy (they might be VERY cheap actually) they looks pretty smart! and yes they do wheely as i watched someone wheely one out of college once.

altho i know they do a 50cc im not 100% certain if they do a 125 Confused

but senda's are cheap!

if not then an older DT125R
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

kd · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 09 May 2003 Karma :

not all my mates have nice shiny scramblers but the thing was we all fell in love with the new honda xr125l, and thought it was..cheapish for a a brand new 125, we arent experience in how much to buy bikes for, i also know some with a derbi senda 50, they look and sound nice, not sure if its in 125, i'll have a look, i do apprecitiate all your help, but i am having trouble finding a 125 scrambler.... Confused

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Scotty · Scooter Boi Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Karma :

A friend of mine has recently brought one of these,
And of course i had a bit of a blast on it.

I managed to get 72mph from it, which isn't bad for a 125 4 stroke unit.

Power is quite bland, but very relaxing and smooth, parts are cheap and they can take a beating.

Reliable, Very.
Handling, suprised me on a round about on how much grip it did have
Fun, Yes but could get bored and if your doing long journeys / motorways and fast A roads, could become tedious.
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