MOT certificate and license for producer question

[colin1]

i have been given a producer.

on the slip of paper it says i have to present registration document, license, and mot at the police station

the policeman who stopped me already knows i have a license from his computer, and surely he also knows it has an mot

i think he also checked that its registered in my name

unfortunately i have lost my license and never got round to getting a replacement and when i had my mot, i think they said i didnt need a printout, as the fact that it was now on the dvla computer meant i didnt need a piece of paper

can i go to the police station with just my reg doc and be ok ?

it wont necessarily be hard to get my mot place to print another copy for me as i think they take records, buts its gonna be ages b4 a license comes through

anyone got any useful info for me b4 i have a go at sorting it out tomorrow ?
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[plugger147]

Go in to the police station and explain the situation and they will give you a time extension on producing your license. Never Know anybody be asked to produce a log book though.
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[Finglonga]

You need a printout for an MOT, you should go to the garage and ask what they are playing at. How do you know they are not just saying they did it and made themselves some money. If they are legit they can just print one out for you. If not report them to VOSA asap.
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[carvell]

[Drew]

reg doc? you saying your producer is asking you to present your v5 form?

mot - you do need a print out, if you didnt get one, then go get one from your mot centre

license - i believe (well it was when i got one) £19 for a replacement

[khoock]

[T.C]

Although you may feel that it is a waste of your time to go and produce your documents when everything is computerised these days, HO/RT1's are usually given for a reason other than to inconveniance the driver or rider.

Whether you choose to attend the Police station is down to you, but this is what the law states!


Introduction

The driver of a vehicle can be required to produce various documents to the police. If a driver cannot produce the documents immediately, the police will give the driver a notice explaining that they have seven days to produce the documents at a police-station. This notice is known as the HORT/1 or “producer”.

Summary of the Law

Failing subsequently to produce your driving licence, certificate of insurance or MOT certificate (if required) for inspection is an offence.

It can be a defence to produce the documents as soon as you can thereafter, if it was not possible for you to do so within the seven days.

If you do not produce a document it is likely that a summons will be sent alleging both a failure to produce the document and the relevant document offence itself. For example, if you fail to produce your insurance certificate, you can expect a summons alleging failing to produce and driving without insurance. The prosecutor will withdraw the summons of driving without insurance if you can produce your certificate, but the failing to produce summons will stay unless you have can show good reason why you did not produce the document.

Maximum Sentence

This offence can be dealt with only by the Magistrates Court. The maximum penalty is a fine of up to £1000.

The Court has no power to disqualify for this offence or put penalty points on a driver’s licence. The fine tends to reflect the administrative complications that result when documents are not produced in good time.

Legal provision

s164, 165 Road Traffic Act 1988
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[Vin]

I don't mean top be rude but how come you are so crap at looking after your documents. Its soo importent to keep records and documents safely. You have created your own grief I am afraid.

[colin1]

[strag]

Hoops to jump through: present registration document, licence, and mot at the police station, and probably insurance as well. Ain't hard is it?
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[colin1]

you may have missed the bit where i explained that i dont have the docs

i'll go along and see if they can just bring up details on their computer and then its ok as they know i had them, or if they can extend the time limit as someone else suggested
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[bazza]

[Finglonga]

[colin1]

i can get a replacement mot on monday, and my replacement license should arrive in 10 days
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[T.C]

[bazza]

[Gazdaman]

Producing your documents confirms what the computer said.

Your driving licence also confirms you are who you said you were. And although it may show you have insurance on the computer, your documents may state that you are not allowed a pillion (or similar).

Granted it's not really necessary now with the computerisation, but it's still good practise IMO. And it's your own fault for a) loosing your licence, b) not getting it replaced quickly and c) who the hell accepts when someone tells them they don't need an MOT certificate?!

Gaz

[McJamweasel]

[MattEMulsion]

I will also provide a bit of defence for having to produce your documents. Firstly the computer is not always right, the insurance database isn't always entirely up to date and it is possible for the wrong information to be on there at the time when you were stopped.

Secondly if you are driving a company vehicle for example then their may well be no specific insurance policy relating to that vehicle, hence it is necessary to prove that you were driving under the terms of an insurance policy at the time you were caught. For example the insurance certificate we have at work just states something like 'any vehicle owned by or under the control of this company'. Now this relates to/covers around 60 fleet vehicles of our own at any one time, let alone any customers vehicles that are in our care at the time too, so you can see it is very open ended.

Colin1, I thought you had a little more common sense that what you have displayed on this thread. It is your own fault that you have lost your licence and not bothered seeking a replacement so you don't have any sympathy from me at all. It is up to you to keep your documents in order, just in case you ever have to produce them such as now. As for your MOT certificate then again you 'think' that they said you didn't need a printout, but I bet they gave you one just the same and I bet you have lost that too. If they honestly didn't give you a certificate then report them to VOSA because they are breaking the rules. Even so how can you not think that you need the certificate? What would you do in the post office if you paid for your road tax and they told you that you don't need a disc? Would you not question it?
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[Drew]

[stinkwheel]

What I want to know is what Colin was doing to attract the attention of the police in the first place? I notice he didn't mention it.

Maybe nothing but I'd have thought he'd be posting in a riteously indignant tone if that were the case.
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