400 or 600

kd · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 09 May 2003 Karma :

after i do my "big bike test" there is the obvious 2 kinda bkes to get, either the 600 or the 400, which one is my best bet to get, i do want speed!! but what is there main differences?

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

There's lots of obvious choices, big sports bikes are one of them.

BOth bikes will go fast, with the 600 only about 15-2mph faster than the 400. The big difference is that it will require a lot less efort to go fast on the 600 and will get to very stupid speeds a fair bit quicker.

While acceration is nice, a 600 can get you into a lot of trouble very quickly...
If this is your first big bike I'd suggest maybe either going for an older sports 600 (if you're not allready considering that) or something like the sv650.

Personally I don't like sports 400s for general riding because they lack that low down grunt which means you can just turn the throttle and bugger off. However this does also mean you're less likely to go sliding all over the place thanks to greasy roads in the british winter.

Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

NNNNNNNoooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Not another 400/600 thread! Takes me back Very Happy

It all depends on the money you have to spend, how much you got for insurance, if you want a bike you're gonna get rid of in a year, how old you want the bike to be etc.
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

If you're big, you'll look like a twat on a 400 Smile

If you're ickle, you'll look like a twat when you drop your 600 Smile

Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

You don't Bendy Wink

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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

I fall into the 'big but short' category and thus look like a twat on both Cool

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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

You're not big. Just short. Razz

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Korn · Admin Joined: 01 Feb 2002 Karma :

Get an older VFR and learn to thrash the bollocks out of it. It will teach you great things Laughing

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Stew · Posted: 10:19 - 31 Oct 2003 Post subject:

kevo · Cop Seeking Missile Joined: 26 Aug 2002 Karma :

Apart from RVF400's that do have alot of grunt low down Smile

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Kevo.

Doddmaster · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Get a 600. If you buy a 400, you will get bored of the power and want something else in a couple of weeks anyway.
Alternatively, get a Firestorm. They are a big bike, but they sound nicer than any 4 cylinder bike and are an insurance group less than the new 600s

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Doddmaster · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Thats a good point.
Hornet 600s are lovely, and so are Speed Fours.
Go on, buy a Speed Four, you could be the first owner of one in Britain (I know someone somewhere must have one, but I have never ever seen one on the road/at a rally/bike meet)

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Speed fours are very expensive for what they are... but they handle like no other bike apparently.

They are ugly IMO, and I know a couple of people with them. They are happy if jealous of other better looking bikes Smile

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Demonic69 · The Pink Rhino Joined: 31 May 2002 Karma :

I got bored with the 400 too easily. That may have just been because it was an RF400 but by the looks of it most people on here got bored soon enough.
If you've got the cash go for a slightly older 600. They tend to hold value a bit better than some of the newer bikes and should be a bit less to insure. An old-ish CBR6 would be less to insure than a new-ish 400.
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Deano · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Feb 2003 Karma :

Honestly mate, your first year of riding your going to make more mistakes than any other time "ever" on a bike. if you crash a shiny 600 it cost you alot if you buy a 400 for a grand to practice on then you can't really lose.
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McJamweasel · BCF Junkie Joined: 22 Mar 2002 Karma :

I really do not believe no one has mentioned this already... (wheres Ste when you need him?? Razz

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Why don't you wait until you are actually close to being in this position (i.e. in 3~4 years) before you make this choice.
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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

I was working Razz

And its Tom-RG who is 13/14 i think. However if KD is as well, whats the point in looking and deciding now?

I went to a 600 with no problems. You have more power, which if you are stupid can get you into trouble. But you can also do this on a 400, or a 125 so its down to self control and sense really.