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thegubner
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Errr help.....UPDATED ENGINE ADVICE? Reply with quote

THE UPDATED QUESTION IS ON THE LAST POST BY ME.




Got me new bike delivered today, have not a clue where to start with this one Mr. Green

Its a GPZ 600 import so I'm told, I want to try and get her running before I spend any half decent money, don't know if its all there, any advice on what to look for, even the obvious would be appreciated, before the scrap it, or burn it comments start, thats not an option, its a bike and it WILL be on the road!


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PostPosted: 18:54 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no fuel tank. You need one of them to get it running. Laughing

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PostPosted: 18:58 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

LMFAO, maybe not THAT obvious. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

check the usuals, spark, coils ignition, battery, etc to get it running, and.... petrol as stated before, sorry couldnt help it Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeebus! The subframe is missing! Thats going to be fun to repair . . . . . Good luck. Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plugs out, bit of oil in the cylinders then try and turn the engine over either with a spanner on the crank or by putting in gear and turning the back wheel.

Clean plugs, change oil, clean carbs, attach battery and fuel. Lets see if it goes.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with ichy that will soon tel u if it will fire when u hit the starter.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Jeebus! The subframe is missing! Thats going to be fun to repair . . . . . Good luck. Shocked


Yeah, I was going to mention that but it seemed a minor point looking at the bike. Either a frame off ebay etc, or a subframe off something else and a different seat unit.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you like a chalange.....

Is it just me or the pic, but has the rear subframe just been ground off with something like a angle grinder....
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you even turn the engine over, make sure you get a cover on the timing rotor, or there will be a big pool of oil on the floor!!

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Shouldn't take much to get running.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that was free?
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, I paid 30 quid for her.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tis a piece of piss to make a new rear subframe, it's getting the measurements right that can be the tricky bit. There's also the choice of tail section to consider, its got to look right instead of cobbled together and you have to decide if you are going for a single seat or will you carry a pillion.

The 600 motor is a pretty robust engine, should run ok providing you make sure the plugs, leads and carbs are all clean it has good oil and the cooling system is sealed and has clean fluids in. Last thing is a decent battery and it should go.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming you get it running, I'd weld an ammo box between the rails of what's left of the subframe to bung the electrics and battery in, attach a hugger and a shorty single seat bolted to the subframe remnants (nothing behind it, just a seat, maybe a small 'bum shelf' to stop you slipping off).

Hardtail the back end at the exact angle it is sitting at now by running some bracers from the swingarm up to the subframe and run the biggest tyre you can fit on at about 15psi.

Get some wide drag bars with a slight kick-back and make up some rearsets so you sit streaked out along the bike in a drag style. Finish it off with a huge round headlamp. Attach the numberplate and tail light to the battery box and fit your flashers in the cut ends of the subframe rails.

I'd make a fuel tank out of two empty gas cylinders (like a scuba diving cylinder type) so they sit with a low profile along the top of the frame spars. You can weld a fuel cap in one and join them at the bottom and top with a length of tubing so they make one big tank.

Now get a big can of matt black paint, do what needs to be done and go find some boy-racers to take on in the traffic light grand-prix.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, am just guessing here, but it sounds like, maybe... u want a project bike? stinkwheel.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guv, when they imported it, I think they left over half of it on the ship. Laughing

As for where to start.... you can't sit on it without a seat. Wink Hmm, just noticed, seat support is an issue too.... Silence Mr. Green But I'm not one to point out the obvious. Cool
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much as Stink said,, all you need is a seat n tank! All sorted... wanna do something similar to the 600 sat in my garden Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

alone wrote:
Pretty much as Stink said,, all you need is a seat n tank!......

.....& a radiator, exhaust system, the rest of the elctrics, airbox, lights, engine cover, frame etc
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

... left switchgear, right switchgear, throttle assembley, right clip-on, rear tire, clutch cable, rad hoses, front m/c, front brake lever ........
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 16 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmao, u dont need an exhaust system, there just for the police, a plain pipe like on GP bikes, now thats an exhaust, dont think it will pass its MOT though till you get a cover and .... the rest of the parts. should be a fun project though, hope that engine is a runner for you mate. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 17 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeesus. You couldn't repair your 500, sold it as a shed. Good luck with that one, it will certainly be a challenge to get on the road.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 17 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
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lmao, u dont need an exhaust system, there just for the police, a plain pipe like on GP bikes, now thats an exhaust,

Ah, so he doesn't need an exhaust system, but he does need an exhaust system, thanks for clearing that up.... Rolling Eyes
Or are you suggesting he melts the back of the radiator?
...assuming he has enough intelligence to fit one, which is debatable......
You fookin mong. He is suggesting that the bike doesn't need an exhaust to run, but to be on the road it does. Wink As for the intelligence comment, The irony. Also he has a sense of humour which you don't seem to display.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 17 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
You fookin mong. He is suggesting that the bike doesn't need an exhaust to run, but to be on the road it does. Wink As for the intelligence comment, The irony. Also he has a sense of humour which you don't seem to display.

I know what he meant, but that wasn't what he posted, you cluless fucking tit. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 17 Aug 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the_guvnor_1_uk wrote:
Nope, I paid 30 quid for her.


don't you mean they paid you £30 to take it off their hands? Wink

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