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 Posted: 17:24 - 17 Aug 2007  Post subject: Camera help. |
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I have acquired occasional use of a camera my dad no longer finds a use for, and as my use is very minimal, I am going to play with it.
Camera:
https://www.manfred-roth.de/digiphoto/pics/eos1000f.jpg
Now, my questions are...
1) what films batteries do they take? Local Asda photo dept say take it in and they will look but what if they can't refill it? Jessops?
2)no manual etc so what do the buttons do? what are the features?
3)can I use it for simply capturing things in fast moving environment fairly clearly(eg wheelies) or will they be too blurred?
4)on the basis I get a film, what's the best way to upload pics etc? I'd rather not use a scannner...
Thanks.  
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Posted: 18:36 - 17 Aug 2007  Post subject: |
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This'll get you started :-
https://www.proactivecreations.com.au/rebelII.pdf
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Posted: 20:21 - 17 Aug 2007  Post subject: Re: Camera help. |
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| st3v3 wrote: | 1) what films batteries do they take? Local Asda photo dept say take it in and they will look but what if they can't refill it? Jessops? |
Do you mean film or batteries. Likely it does take a battery, but likely to last ages (shorter if you put the flash on).
Film wise likely to just use standard 35mm film (sometimes listed as 135).
If you look for film it will come with an ISO rating. 100, 200, 400 and 800 are common (plenty of others, but tend not to be commonly in Asda and the like). The higher the number the more sensitive it is to light.
| st3v3 wrote: | 2)no manual etc so what do the buttons do? what are the features? |
Dial on the top selects the mode. Such as Tv (Timer Value, otherwise known as shutter priority, you set the shutter speed and the camera chooses the appropriate aperture), Av (aperture value, otherwise known as aperture priority, you set the aperture and the camera chooses the appropriate shutter speed), P (program, basically automatic) and M (fully manual, you set the aperture and the shutter speed). There might also be things like a sports mode, landscape mode, portrait mode, etc.
The wheel on the top and back adjusts things depending on what mode you have used. If Av and Tv modes the wheel on the top changes the aperture / shutter speed (depending on the mode), while the wheel on the back adjusts the "exposure compensation". Exposure compensation makes the camera expose the image more / less. Eg, if you set the aperture to F5.6 and the camera would set the shutter speed to, say 250. You could use the exposure compensation to force the camera to use 500 instead. This would make the image far darker, but if you were taking a picture of a white bike against a black ground it can confuse the camera, so you can use exposure compensation to make up for this. I would say for now ignore this, just be aware so you don't adjust the exposure compensation by mistake. It is signified by a bar at the bottom of the LCD on the top with a dot under it to show the compensation currently selected (in the middle is no compensation).
There are other buttons. These probably work by holding them down while turning the wheel on the top or back (often one button will have 2 effects depending on which you turn).
For example, should be a button for changing the focus point (use the central one for shooting fast moving targets like bikes).
Another (probably marked AF) will select the auto focus mode. Such as AI Servo or One Shot. One Shot will auto focus when you half press the shutter button and keep focus after that. AI Servo will do the same but will refocus when the subject moves.
| st3v3 wrote: | 3)can I use it for simply capturing things in fast moving environment fairly clearly(eg wheelies) or will they be too blurred? |
You can, but it will take practice. Which might cost a bit in film.
I suggest you (on a fairly bright day) use ISO200 film. Set the mode dial to Tv. Use the wheel just behind the shutter button to change the shutter speed (it will be displayed on the lcd on the top). Use AI Servo. Set it to about 320 to start with (that is 1/320 of a second).If you use a lower shutter speed you get more impression of movement but it gets harder to get a decent shot. As the bike goes past move the camera, keeping the bike in the middle of the shot with the shutter button half pressed. Fully press it at the moment you want to take the shot.
| st3v3 wrote: | 4)on the basis I get a film, what's the best way to upload pics etc? I'd rather not use a scannner... |
You can get them developed and scanned straight to CD at the same time.
All the best
Keith
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| Posted: 20:47 - 17 Aug 2007 Post subject: |
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Hi
Right, this is a battery from a normal film SLR. Last quite a while.
https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/st3v3-Battery.JPG
Normal 35mm film (this one is a black and white film, and is ISO 125)
https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/st3v3-Film.JPG
Back of a Canon film SLR. This one is a EOS50E.
https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/st3v3-Camera.JPG
You can see on the wheel on the left the Av, Tv, etc. There are also some icons. These are (going clockwise) a stylised face (portrait mode), a mountain (landscape mode), a flower (macro mode) and a bod running (sports mode).
You can see on the far left a couple of square icons with a circle in the middle. These are for the metering, basically whether the camera decides how bright the image is from the whole picture or a but in the middle, or a combination of the 2 but weighting the bit in the middle a bit more.
On the far right you can see a button with a square box image below it with 3 dots in the middle. This is to select the autofocus point. Put the camera to your eye, push and hold this button and you will see a red square in the viewfinder. While holding the button move the wheel just behind the shutter button and you will see the square move around. Likely there are 3 positions, plus all three lit (basically where the camera chooses which one to use for the shot).
All the best
Keith
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Posted: 04:13 - 18 Aug 2007  Post subject: |
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Haha lucky Keith was here I dont know what film is ....That was way before my time
No really 
I got a dslr a while ago now to learn on and I seriously would not like to think the money I would have spent on film and developing to practice.
Don't get me wrong I think film is an excellent medium but for learning I dont think you can go past digital cost wise.
check these guys out too.
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/
its a canon forum and they are very helpful and you should find someone who could provide you with a manual.
Then all you have to do is figure how to break up your spare time between the camera and the bike 
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| Posted: 09:28 - 18 Aug 2007 Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for this guys, I reckon I'll take the camera out next time I'm bored and just fiddle......
The local Asda have batteries at £4, film at about £6 for a double pack(so 2). I'm not sure about value, but something tells me it's worth it value for money wise unless i go in town and see what's there.
This pic
(https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/st3v3-Camera.JPG) I'm guessing is the more expensive version of the two, my dad got the cheaper. Difference being that has a metal casing and the one he got is plastic. (apparently).
Just found this site has a link to a general cross-range manual it says most on the range are more or less the same.
https://photonotes.org/manuals/eos-rebel-s-ii/
Can't afford to get a cheap yet decent digital one, so I'll have to shell out occasionally for this one.
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| Posted: 16:25 - 18 Aug 2007 Post subject: |
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Cheers Keith, walked into Jessopps this morning and the battery at £6 in Asda was £13 there.  When I told the guy he was pretty stunned. 
Think I'll get a film & start playing next week when the weather clears up(unless tomorrow is better).
Thanks again.
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