So my court summons arrived...

[Groove]

This is second time writing this, fucking forums!

Right, so im getting done for:

Speeding at more than 122mph (written in his statement)
Driving otherwise than in accordance to licence (No licence to ride the vehicle, i should be restricted)
Driving without insurance

Im going to plead guilty by post as ill be in New Zealand on the court date, but i can send off my insurance certificate of the time. It doesnt say that i said the bike was restricted, so would that still cover me and get me off that charge?

Also, im going to right on the back in the "Statement in Mitigation" section somthing along the lines of:

[.....]

Ban time

Use a spell checker .

[Groove]

I did?

Obviously doesnt do quotes

Oh yeah, do they take in to account previous stuff? Ive already got two SP30's and a CD10 equalling 3 points.
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[.....]

[Groove]

I did do it at around 3AM last night, after a few drinks

But the basis is ok?
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[.....]

Well not really TBH. Imagine you're a magistrate reading stuff like this day in day out. Would you care?

Tell them you've sold the bike, gone on a course etc. But at 122MPH you're screwed whatever you write. Go to www.pepipoo.com maybe? Probably too late but there might be stuff on there to help you.

[Kal]

It's your own fault your licence is at risk

However...

If you clock 6 points your licence will be revoked, rather than a ban. Which means you will be able to apply to get your provisional entitlement back once you leave the Court.

You are risking an outright ban because of the ton up part. I would just leave it at "I need transport for my work" without getting specific about what you do for a living. Don't talk about what may or may not happen in the future - they won't be impressed.

If you are going to admit Guilt just go with you were in the wrong and state your attitude was immature, with a sincere apology should go a long way.

I think you'll get away with the insurance, although it is a grey area. I would supply a copy of your insurance documents rather than the actual one as you wouldn't want it to get lost in the post.

With two SP30 already on your licence though they are liable to believe you've already had your second chance.
____________________
Kal...
I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It I Like To Hoon It Hoon It Ya Like To (HOON IT!).
1984 GB250 Clubman,1983 CB250N Superdream, 1999 GPZ500S

[colin1]

best not to let them know about the few drinks

i think its unlikely that theyd consider it mitigating circumstances
____________________
colin1 is officially faster than god

[iooi]

[sickpup]

[St0rmer66]

[Ariel Badger]

Do not mention that you wish to be an estate agent, choose a profession that is a little less loathed such as rat catcher or traffic warden.
____________________
Bikers make great organ donors, get 115 on your licence today.

[MattEMulsion]

I think that if you want any chance of getting your penalty reduced you are going to have to turn up in court in person. I think that the letter will do jack shit and the judge/magistrate will think well if he can't be bothered to even turn up then I'll just give him what for. (They won't know that you are in New Zealand for whatever reason).

As for the list of things that they are taking you to court for - speeding, driving otherwise than in accordance to your licence and the technicality of your insurance being invalid, you are screwed anyway. They will almost certainly ban you - its just the period of that ban that is in question. If they also take into account your other two SP30's and your driving without due care then you really will be looking at a long time off the road.

Oh and your comment "and for the safety nazi's ", then I don't think you are in a position to comment at all. Your riding history speaks volumes and to be fair you are not exactly setting a good example to others. Maybe the Karma thing has got you after all...
____________________
Yamaha YZF-R6

[Keir]

[69.9mph]

[Groove]

Well, it was just after i had the engine changed; which i told the copper.

He was going to get it checked out and had already said he would be confiscating the bike and taking it there and then. As i was on holiday a few days later and they would have had the bike for a good 3 weeks, at £15 a day i didnt think it would be worth getting told that no, the bikes not restricted!

Anyway, because of this i ended up saying it was restricted, but testing the engine now it seems that more than likely the restrictions have not carried over, even though i thought it was the throttle restricted. So i gave in. He really didnt know fuck all about the restrictions, he didnt no that 25kw was 33bhp and he called somone to come check it by the road. When the other copper came out, he looked at the bike, went round it from a couple of feet away and said "how fast was he going" to be replyed with "well i was maxed out at 122mph and he was getting away at some pace". He then went on to say that he doubted the bike was restricted but cant tell by the road side so what the fuck was the point in him coming out in the first place!

And its not like i speed everywhere, i got caught doing 40 in a 30 on the way rushing to college, then 8 months later got caught averging 110mph over half a mile on a 25 mile dual carrigway. This time it was on a empty stretch of 3 lane motorway which is in his statement.
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[.....]

Isn't speeding on a motorway a different, more serious offence than on other roads?

[Groove]

Sorry, wasnt actually a motorway. Some 3 lane A road linking to one.
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[T.C]

If you have insurance, it is unlikely that they will proceed for that offence. To prove that offence, it would have to be shown that no insurance policy was in force at all.

The fact that the bike was not restricted makes no difference as your insurers would still have to cover minimum third party risk, although they would be at liverty to refuse any claim for damage to you or your bike in the event of a claim.

To validate the insurance it states that you must hold or have held a licence for that class of vehicle. You obviously hold a motorcycle licence by virtue of the fact that you have been reported for not riding in accordance of the terms of your provisional licence. If you did not have a licence for the bike, they would have had to report you for driving without a licence.

In order to avoid disqualification, you will need to prove extreme hardship to the court in the event that you were disqualified.

For example if you were required to take a sick member of your family or maybe your wife to the hospital daily for important medical treatment, or there was some life and death reason, then you may be lucky.

But to say that you would lose your job when it is obvious you have not started your job insales yet, and therefore the fact that you want to start learning to drive so that you can get into sales will not wash.

They (the court) will not consider that a hardship, to them it will be a case of you taking the piss to avoid disqualification and may well increase the time you spend off the road.
____________________
It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next

[kitty kat]

[Groove]

Now thats the sort of stuff that helps! T.C

My mother is currently in and out of hospital with treatments of treatments of breast cancer. Since i sold my bike she has no way of getting to the hospital on her own. So i need a car to take the strain back off her and help her to a much fuller, quicker recovery

What would they rather do, ban me or disqualify me?

Last time i got a 7 week ban, so did not have to retake my tests. Surely it would be better for everyone if i had to prove that i was able to ride, and therefore have to retake my tests?

I do understand though that a 8 week ban would mean retaking tests.
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[kitty kat]

sorry to disappoint you, but quote from my father, looks like you will be facing a ban and a possible extended test when you get your licence back.

Don't like being the bearer of bad news, but don't want you building your hopes up.
____________________
Enjoy everyday, tell those you love everyday you love them
Life is too short to fall out with people

[Pete.]

[Groove]

They are? Ok then, revoked from points totting up!

And no, she has had a fair few side effects though, currently getting lots of random lumps all over her

And Kitty kat, you seem to have a rather negetive attitude in every thread. I know ive lost my bike entitlement, probably for atleast 6 months, but id like to be able to get my self around whilst im young!

Its not like im some cunt faced chav who rapes children, kicks kittens and pays your sister for anal, im a good person
____________________
|| Past: 1991 Kawasaki ZXR 250 ~ 2003 Honda CBR 600 F Sport ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1999 Yamaha R1 ~ 1999 Kawasaki ZX6R J ~ 2004 Kawasaki ZX6R B1H 636 ~ 1998 Honda VTR1000F Firestorm ~ K1 GSXR 600 Track bike ~ K6 GSXR 1000 ~ 2006 Speed Triple 1050 || Current: 2005 R1 https://www.adrucore.co.uk

[T.C]