Guns, guns and more guns.

TheShaggyDA · Repost Police Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

In a half slumber I heard on the radio this morning that 1 in 5 men in the UK know how to get hold of a gun. In my immediate circle, I can only think of one person who might know a friend of a friend who might know someone who could get hold of one. 1 in 5 seems a bit steep to me, unless they count wandering into your local rough pub and asking "Excuse me chaps, but could anyone sell me a firearm?" at the bar, or if you know of someone with a shotgun and can break in at night. Although you'd be a bit dumb breaking into a house where you know they have a shotgun Smile

So, if you are in the UK (we'll exclude the warmongers over in Uncle Sam) can you get hold of a firearm? We'll include sawn off shotguns and other items that have been converted to fire live rounds.
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yzf750r · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Karma :

I know a few people with guns, some that are kept properly inlocked cabinets bolted to walls and with licenses, some that are not! I havent got one myself, but could get one if it was needed! One in 5 probably is right around my area. Thumbs Up

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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

Depends who you associate with, say twenty of my good mates for example, there is one who can get hold of and may have some stashed.

We all know each other so that means, its twenty out of twenty who can get hold of a gun.

The statistics are shit, it doesn't mean that in every group of 5 people one can get a shooter, just that for every 5 people in Britain there is one who can get a gun.

For legal reasons this is all lies.

craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

If in the UK I could probably find out where to get one from..but I think 1 in 5 is over inflated...besides how the feck do you research a figure like that. Its purely speculative anyway.

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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

Only if the stats are for BCF, not for britain as you heard on the radio.

TheShaggyDA · Repost Police Joined: 14 Jun 2004 Karma :

Which is why there's a now a poll for BCF, to see what the stats here are.
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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

Ahaaaaaa, bloody good point.

But surely if its for BCF and not just the UK as you say, the why exclude americans as you say in your first post?

Is it BCF?

Is it Britain?

Or is it BCF in Britain?

Chriss · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 May 2005 Karma :

Does it count if you're in the military?
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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

True.

I can also get cornflakes if you are interested.

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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Personally I wouldn't count as a gun anything that's been converted from a non-firer, or most re-activated de-acs. Non-rifled barrels and abysmal reliability (including blowing up in your face) make them more of a liability than a weapon.

So, if you disclude all that kind of crap, the stats of 1-in-5 are rubbish. Getting hold of a 'proper' gun is a lot harder.

Shotguns have always been a piece of p!ss, but they're not a 'proper' gun either.
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thegubner · World Chat Champion Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Karma :

No corn flakes but I do have a pic of the super bad, fake weetabix with added iron!!

Shhhhhhhhh!

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Phoenix · Twisted Firestarter Joined: 01 Aug 2002 Karma :

Statistics are rubbish anyway. They may have done a survey asking people if they can get hold of an illegal firearm, but how many of those people actually understand the question, and probably thought oo my mates dad's uncle's got a shotgun, so yes, when infact a shotgun isn't illegal obviously. Also where was the survey conducted? Lozelles? South London? Without asking every single person in the UK you can't give anything like a realistic figure like 1 in 5.

McGee · O RLY? Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Karma :

I remember when the local gun smiths got knocked over in Banbury.

Got offered an over and under 12 gauge browning for a 50 quid, damn I wish I had 50 quid at the time Crying or Very sad

Round here you can get a pistol for the price of an eighth of decent bud.

Best thing is they are real guns here no de-ac's reactivated, loads of glocks strangely seem to be real popular with the "gangsta's" they like to call them cop killers Laughing

Hell you don't need a permit to own a pistol but you need one to buy one. So in reality you can be given a gun and its legal to own it. At 18 you can buy rifles and shotguns with no license's. Shit the AK or AR15 may only be semi auto but its still an assualt rifle.

Scary ass state.
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WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 21 Mar 2002 Karma :

For obtaining what is legally permitted, via shotgun/firearm certificates etc. I know what to do, and where to go.

If you wanted one tomorrow, there are lots of country/farmer types around here, most probably have 1 or 2.

So I voted yes.

But then you mentioned the illegal stuff, could probly work it out without too much difficulty, but I dont exactly have a gun dealer on my speed dial.
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ncrn · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 May 2006 Karma :

Depends really.. I have a mate with an old air rifle that's pretty dam powerful, could injure someone if you wanted it too..

Or my uncle in Scotland owns a series of rifles and pistols cause he hunts a lot. But he would never let me have one, and I live around 650 miles away from him so I'd hardly call it easy access.. but I know he has them.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Solid shotgun ammo is easily 'modified' from standard cartridges. All you need is some lead and a mould to make the slugs. Cut off the top of a cartridge, take the shot out, replace it with your slug and tape over the top.

Taking half the shot out, pressing the rest into a lump of blu-tak then replacing it in the cartridge makes a nasty mess of whatever you hit with it. Mate of mine hit a rabbit with such a projectile at about 20 yards and there was very little left of it, just a few scraps of fur.
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