Restriction Woes

[Thumperabbit]

Right, I've got my practical test(Plus a 2 hour lesson prior to test) booked for Wendesday morning, i'm fairly confident on passing.

Anyway. With the ammount of cash I gotta spend on my Bandit insurance(Roughly £500), I hear that Restrictor Kits cost about £200. What are the penalty's of getting caught without a motorcycle restrictor(With the A2 Licence).

I know my insurance would be technicaly invalid. But solong I stick to the speed limits, whats the chances of getting pulled, and what situation would the police want to see a Restriction Certificate?
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Name:Dan
Ride: Yamaha XV535 Virago
Licence: A2 (2 Year restriction, 20 month's to go)

[instigator]

Chances of being found out - Very low indeed. Unless you crash into someone or have problems lieing to an officer of the law.

Cost - Get some second hand, if and when they come up on ebay they'll go for less than £50 and piece of piss to fit.

Consequences - Driving without appropriate license and insurance I believe.

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[MattEMulsion]

Why even bother doing the test if you are not going to stick to its 'terms and conditions'? The offence and penalty will be about the same anyway, whether you have the restricted licence or no licence at all.

Here's another idea for you - why not do the DAS instead and then you can have anything you want legally. Don't tell me - its because you are not old enough.

The sooner the government bring in the graduated licences the better as far as I am concerned. This thread is just another example of why the current system doesn't work at all because people can't be trusted to stick to the rules of being allowed a restricted licence.
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Yamaha YZF-R6

[Thumperabbit]

So is there any kind of certificate to prove you have the restrictor?
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Name:Dan
Ride: Yamaha XV535 Virago
Licence: A2 (2 Year restriction, 20 month's to go)

[sagalout]

If you're going to stick to the speed limits you might as well keep the restrictors

[alpine]

Ive got a FMX650 - Low on power without restrictors, so im getting them removed. Although i got the restriction for free from Honda.. maybe find the washers or whatever they are from eBay?
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Current bike - FMX650.

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There is a certificate to prove you have a restriction. While the company that makes them insists they are great, their legal position is very questionable.

As instigator says, they should be able to be got quite cheaply. Alternatively, you could make your own with a little dyno time or copy an existing design, I'm sure.

[Keir]

ive got a set of bandit restrictors you can have for £50 if thats the going rate. Ive just taken them out my 2000 model but i think they fit all pre 2005 bandits.
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Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
Previous: '99 Honda CBR 600FX, 03 ZX636 B1H, 99 Fazer 600 (red), 02 GSX-R 600 K2, 00 SV650s (red), 2008 ZX10R, 97 Bandit 1200N, 04 ZX6RR K1H, 04 GSX-R 1000, 98 Fazer 600 (gold), 05 Madness 110 Pit bike, 04 CR125R, 00 SV650s (black), 06 KTM 625 SMC, 99 SRAD 600 track bike, 03 SV650, 98 Bandit 1200N, Bandit 600SY, 03 GSX-R 600 K3, 01 GSX-R 600, 01 Fazer 600 (black), VFR 400 NC30 x3, 78 Honda Dream, 00 Speedfight 50

[Keir]

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[Matt06]

If you are planning on riding without the restriction the best way is to get a certificate or dyno printout proving 33bhp and take the restrictors out. There is a garage by me who will restrict your bike either by throttle or washers in the carbs and give you a dyno print for £100.

A bit of perspective for you - I am on my restricted licence and have a ZXR400 that makes 2x the power of restriction. My insurance company never asked anything about 33bhp, I have been pulled over before on my bike and the copper didnt even know what sort of bike it was and didnt seem to care and I have had an insurance claim go through after my bike was reversed into with also no questions asked.

The only risk really isnt being pulled by the police, but having an accident and being found without the restrictors. Its possible that you could lose your licence and alot of money paying for the third party damages and your own. I think when the newer motorbike tests come through next year etc. police are going to be more clued up about this 33bhp lark.

Anyway, im not saying you should or shouldnt have the restrictors because its your choice to make. Just weigh up the pros and cons and see where you get to.
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Current: MT-10, Bandit, Grom, GPZ500
Previous: YBR125, GSXR400, ZXR400, MT-03, NTV650, R6, z750, ZX6R, MT-09

[MattEMulsion]

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[instigator]

[lilredmachine]

Don't bother with restriction. The majority of police are too ignorant to know or arrogant to ask. Your insurance company won't care because it doesn't affect them (they won't pay if they think the bike isn't restricted, so it's no skin off their nose) and the chances of being hit by another bike are slim, so it's more likey to be a third party car insurer that doesn't know the law (in my case) that you are going to be claiming off. They would rather just pay you an insignificant amount rather than drag it through an expensive legal battle.
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Bikes: too many, too much for one man to maintain anyway.

[MattEMulsion]

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[J D]

Sorry for going a bit off topic but anyone know the 0-60 speed of a restricted bandit?

[Keir]

i dont know exact times but id guess about 7 seconds ish. gtis etc put up a good battle.
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Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
Previous: '99 Honda CBR 600FX, 03 ZX636 B1H, 99 Fazer 600 (red), 02 GSX-R 600 K2, 00 SV650s (red), 2008 ZX10R, 97 Bandit 1200N, 04 ZX6RR K1H, 04 GSX-R 1000, 98 Fazer 600 (gold), 05 Madness 110 Pit bike, 04 CR125R, 00 SV650s (black), 06 KTM 625 SMC, 99 SRAD 600 track bike, 03 SV650, 98 Bandit 1200N, Bandit 600SY, 03 GSX-R 600 K3, 01 GSX-R 600, 01 Fazer 600 (black), VFR 400 NC30 x3, 78 Honda Dream, 00 Speedfight 50

[Ben.]

MattEMulsion, he is obviously under 21, who in their right mind would chose to do the restricted test after 21, when they want a full powered bike?
I personally think this law is utter bollocks, granted it may save a few lives, but in reality if someone is that intent on rideing like a tit they can still ride like it at 33bhp, besides what 17 year old can get insured on a 600 + cc bike anyway. The laws bollocks and its clearly shown its not working, rather than make it illegal, make the fookin test harder or make more compulsory training if their that intent on saving every single person from themselves.

Saying this I will be restricted for 2 years and i have no intention of takeing them out, il'd rather wait 2 years than get caught and have to wait longer, besides 33bhp is as quick as a porsche, how many other under 21's can say their as quick as that.
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[Ben.]

[J D]

Same here my restrictions will be staying in the full 2 years. Is it really as quick as a porsche?

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[Keir]