The Infinity Monster (metaphysics; you've been warned).

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

As part of my ongoing construction of a philosophy to explain reality I need to prove the concept of infinity is a bunch of hogwash.

So, can somebody show me infinity? I'm begging the question in order to test my proof that it doesn't exist, so please indulge me with some serious answers and I'll then test my contradictions and see what you think.

TIA. Thumbs Up

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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

Theres a School of Mathematical Philosophy named finitism that already rejects the concept of infinity.

The easiest argument is that infinity cannot be proven since it can't be measured. Likewise if it can't be measured then it must be infinite.

hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Have you men not learnt yet ... that the concept of infinity is best demonstrated by a domestic argument with an annoyed woman.

Mr. Green

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Pie-Roe · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Karma :

Surely infinity cannot exist because there would always have to be something bigger than it for it to be measured against to create the infinity-ness?
I dont see how it can exist, because lack of a measurement due to foreverness just means to me that there isnt a way to measure it. Not that it isnt actually measurable.
Pyro
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Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

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Ahmato_ · Crazy Courier Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

So where does it all end?
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D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Infinity is a concept. I don't think you can disprove a concept like that.

In any event, I don't think anyone on here has enough clout to be able to give you any weight to your argument.

Its like picking a fight with school kids.

Personally, if I were so passionate about developing a theory which will stand up to proper, academic scrutiny, then I would direct this question to academics also.

I'm not saying that this is not a place for these things - after all I have to say they are some of the more thought provoking threads, but if you really want to feel you have developed something worthwhile, subject it to some worthwhile arguments. Thumbs Up

Ichy · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

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D O G · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Dec 2006 Karma :

Yeah I know, but I just want it noted that successfully arguing it on here does not mean it is a watertight theory!

carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

It exists in a mathematical sense.

For a simple explanation of infinity:

1 divided by 2 is 0.5
1 divided by 1 is 1
1 divided by 0.5 is 2
1 divided by 0.1 is 10
1 divided by 0.0000001 is 10,000,000
1 divided by 0.00000000001 is 100,000,000,000

Now can you tell me what 1 divided by 0 is?
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hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

You cannot use the words "arguing" and "successfully" in a thread generated and overseen and responded to by Hetzer!!!

Laughing

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carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

Also, can you tell me what tan(pi/2) is?

The only way to explain it is infinity.
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snapperslappe... · Scooby Slapper Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Karma :

isnt pi itself infinate?

as theories go, infinity seems like an easy get out clause when calculations become too astronomical for said mathematician / physicist to calculate......."oh, it's erm....an infinate amount..yeah".........

give me a bit of chaos theory any day of the week Thumbs Up

completly baffling

Thom_NSR · Scooby Slapper Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Karma :

Proving or disproving infinity is like trying to prove or disprove evolution. The point isn't whether it is "true" or not, it's whether it's useful for making predictions or not.

So far infinity has been a very useful mathematic concept for approximately 2400 years... And will be until something better comes along, even if it is "false".

carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Infinity doesn't actually exist. It's just a human concept that is a by product of the number system we use. 'Fallout' if you will.

The very fact that the concept of infinity was brought about by a mortal species that will one day extinguish itself, and therefore extinguish the concept of infinity with it, renders whether infinity can be proved or not irrelevant.

To go further, if the universe had a start or has an end then infinity would be balderdash whether we were here or not.
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carvell · Scuttler Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Karma :

You only seem to be thinking of infinity in the sense of time...?
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