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Gordon T
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Scandanavian tour 2008 Queries............... Reply with quote

Hoping to do a scandanavian tour next year but have a few things I need sorting out.
Been told that even in the summer, going North in say Sweden warrants the use of handwarmers. Is this so?
Also is it better to stay at hostels or camp sites (will obviously be taking a tent). I have budgeted about £600 per week for fuel, digs, food and beer etc. Is this enough?
Also been told that the price of booze over there is astronomical compared to what we pay here.
Ive been to Sweden a long time ago (22yrs ago to be exact) but as I was working there I didnt get to see much of the country other than a few industrial sites and the drinks tab etc was picked up by the company. What should I expect now if going over? I dont want to dipping into the plastic for any unwarranted expenses if I can help it. Always promised myself I would go back under my own steam and at my leisure to see more of the sights. Anyone help with ideas please.....Gordon.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i recently hiked through northern Europe and found the prices in sweden stupidly expensive compared to Norway / Finland. but 600quid will be more than enough per week. I have some useful sites your might want to visit with lots of information on hostels / prices of things. If you want them just drop me a pm and ill route them out for you.

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good.. I'm hoping to do something similar. keep me posted as to what you find out Smile

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PostPosted: 18:42 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Finland you can camp free of charge outside campsites. Basically, you can pitch a tent anywhere you want, bar in a cultivated field, one with livestock on it or within the immediate vicinity of houses. It's called 'everyman's right'; we don't believe in the idea of a person owning the nature, it belongs to all of us. Just pull in when you see a little side road and pitch your tent there.

You'll start needing winter gloves in the evenings (say from 10pm) around late August on, but until then, summer stuff is adequate. Summer daytime temperatures tend to be around the mid-20s, even as high as mid/high 30s in July.

Take waterproofs, as the summer thunderstorms are legendary. And, take swimwear, as the lakes are gorgeous.

If you're going to Lapland, take mosquito repellant (not that it will probably work, as they're immune) and be prepared to wear long sleeves and trousers, the mozzies are everywhere as are the midges. They don't spread any diseases, but there are billions of them, all wanting to taste your English blood.

Riding in the dusk (7pm-ish; remember, it will be light until midnight, and if you go at the end of June, the sun doesn't set at all, as we've got the 24-hour daylight there), look out for moose; hitting one of these is fatal even in a car. They're the size of a large horse, and they panic in headlights, so you can't predict if they'll carry on across the road or if they'll turn back. Make sure your lights are strong enough.

Filtering is stricly illegal and you can be fined on the spot. We don't normally speed by more than 10-15% of the limit; any more and the fine would depend on our earnings the previous tax year. The roads are full of traffic police, both marked and unmarked, but there are no fixed cameras.

Petrol is about the same price as here (certainly in Finland), food in bars etc more expensive, beer I couldn't tell. Bottled water is rare, as our tap water is spring water, also, most of our rivers and streams have drinkable water.

Check this site for advice on where to go and how to do it. In Finland, I'd concentrate on Karelia (Karjala) and the Lake District (Jarvi-Suomi), as that's the best bit, as far as the nature is concerned.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that advice. I am willing to listen.
As for filtering, I take it going up the inside when the traffic isnt moving etc is what you mean? Surely you dont mean joining the traffic at a junction and nipping in as if your coming off a sliproad to join the main carriageway?
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filtering, as in riding between lanes of moving traffic, i.e., overtaking/undertaking. If you find yourself in a traffic jam, you'll stay jammed. Luckily, we don't have that much traffic, so you should be OK, especially if don't travel around 8am and 4pm.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 28 Sep 2007    Post subject: Re: Scandanavian tour 2008 Queries............... Reply with quote

I hit Scandinavia for a couple of weeks during my big tour of Europe last year.

Gordon T wrote:
Been told that even in the summer, going North in say Sweden warrants the use of handwarmers. Is this so?

Depends how much of a pansy you are! I found myself cold in the middle of summer in mountainous parts of Norway, but not unbearably so. You'd certainly want winter gloves with you, but you'd also want summer gloves because it can also be quite hot in other places.

Think it's definately best(a lot cheaper) to camp, whether wild or in comercial camping grounds. If you're on your own you'd probably prefer camping grounds because it can be your only real chance to have a conversation with somebody. The ground can be bloody cold, and in Norway I found myself sleeping in all my clothes so definately take a warm sleeping bag. Beer is most expensive in Norway, think in Finland it's expensive in bars but not that bad from offys or supermarkets.

The best scenery without a doubt is in Norway but Finland is also with its own charm, full of forests and lakes. Sweden is a like a bit of both, but with a bigger population.

Definately watch out for the rozzers, I picked up a £380 on-the-spot speeding fine in Norway. Unless you get some bad luck and pick up a similar fine, £600 would be plenty of money per week.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 29 Sep 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity I would welcome a suggestion as to which are the best set of hot grips to get. Only used them some time ago on someone elses bike and found them to be excellent (think they were Hondas own make). As Im trying to make everything easy for myself from the start I would also like to know which is the best breakdown insurance to get ie RAC or AA? Knowing my luck I might need them!
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