How sympathetic are you?

[ColdInsomnia]

Here's one for ya,


My girlfriend has a relative who is about 40 years old (though he looks over 50). As with most of my girlfriends family, he's been smoking like a chimney all his life. Aside from what I understand to be a short span of work as a taxi driver, he's never had a job (also along with most of my girlfriend's family). He's also largely overweight (Not HUGE, most of his weight is in his belly - he honestly looks 9 months pregnant. Really weird).

In the last few years, he has had 9 heart attacks and two strokes. He is currently in hospital because he also has kidney stones. After all this, he is still going outside the hospital every 30 minutes to have a fag.


Does the term "flogging a dead horse" come to mind?!?!
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[Whosthedaddy]

I am a Charge Nurse on a Coronary Care Unit and this sounds like a huge proportion of my patients. People don't learn or listen, not sure which and the number of 'repeat offenders' is just stupid.

Everyone deserves the best, most appropriate treatment or therapies.
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[ColdInsomnia]

[Ben.]

i dont agree with that, you chose to ride a bike, knowing full well you have a higher risk on dyeing tomorrow than someone whos in a car, so if u do crash, and get all fixed up and go back on the road on 2 wheels only to crash again and end up in hospital, would you think it fair that they just tossed you out on your ass because they told you to buy a car?
I know that example has holes in it, but it illustrates my point.
Its a lifestyle choice and you and everyone else in the world have no right whatsoever to say that because you dont agree with his lifestyle, that someone else should have the money spent on them.
Big headed, no?

Then again i have no sympathy for smokers, they want to carry on doing it then fair enough, treat them the best you can, but dont expect me to sympathise over you, you chose your path, even against the advice of everyone else.

You chose how to make you cake, we will offer advice on whats the best ingredient's and by all means we will help you to try and make it tastier, but if you use shit as an ingredient dont moan if it takes like shit at the end of it.
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[colin1]

I have sympathy.

He isnt in control of his life.

He cant help himself.

He needs some paul mcKenna motivational stuff or something, but then so do I and im not as bad as him.

Its hard to change habits, or patterns of behaviour. Its easier for him to accept his fate rather than try to avoid it.

I think raising the smoking age to 18 may help make it more difficult for some kids to get ciggies which may mean fewere adults become hooked.
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[Itchy]

But as a smoker he has paid a ton of additional tax.

If it turns into a US system then ok taxes drop but no med insurance.

the same arguement can be made for bikes etc.... or George Best

Restrict one thing on the NHS ...... eventually the NHS will only treat people who have never eaten anything with any fat content, breathed unfilted oxygen, or gone outside their own house or done anything... slippery slope..
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[ColdInsomnia]

[ColdInsomnia]

I think I might have worded my original post a little badly since some people seem to have the impression that I'm a heartless bastard who wishes a slow painful death on any smoker.

My main gripe, is the fact that this guy has hardly ever worked. You mention that he's welcome to his own lifestyle choice, does that include sitting on his arse all day to take your hard earned money when his arse starts to get sore?
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[Nufkamp]

The only things the NHS should not fund are the likes of tattoo removal, breast enlargements, sex-swaps etc. None of these are life threatening and should only be done privately - keep the NHS money for saving lives.

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[bazza]

[ColdInsomnia]

[akaDAVE]

With the NHS set up, I believe everyone is responsible for cooperating to make sure thier treatment is worthwhile and effective.

If someone has smoked all thier life and has a fatal lung disease that needs treatment then they should get it. But if they continue to smoke then they are taking the piss, wasting resources and should be left to die.

The same applies to alcahol, the other big demon.

I knew a bloke at work that was about 50 who had smoked 20 a day for much of his life but wanted to quite after 2 heart attacks and an evil cough.
He did actually manage a year by the time I'd left, simply motivated by the realisation that he was going to die if he carried on.

To be honest I didn't give him a chance in hell as I'd given up after only about 6 years of smoking and I found it near impossible.

If the prospect of a painful death doesn't change someones attitude then all the treatment in the world is a waste of time.
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