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Ted
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 03 Oct 2007    Post subject: Chain Pitch? Reply with quote

Basically... what is it?

I'm after a new chain and sprockets for my bike, but what is chain pitch?

I was looking on M&P, and I've got an option of 428 pitch, or 520 pitch! Is it to do with the width of the chain or something?
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G
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 03 Oct 2007    Post subject: Re: Chain Pitch? Reply with quote

It is indeed the width.

428 sounds a bit thin? 520 is the standard for a lot of bikes from smallish bikes to being used, but not standard on 600cc race bikes.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 03 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Pitch is not the width, it is the length of links (pin to pin, or distance between teeth of the sprocket it goes on).

The width is seperate from the pitch:-

https://www.moto-chains.com/site/898528/page/578189

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PostPosted: 20:04 - 03 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, ignored the 'pitch bit'.

Wasn't aware that was quite how chains were done. However, I note that '520' isn't a pitch, it's a chain size. Which is a combination of pitch and width it seems.


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PostPosted: 22:19 - 03 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah your right. The first number (5) denotes the pitch, the remaining numbers (20) is the chains width. Some companies change the last digit to denote chain strength etc but this is slightly off topic here. Changing chain size is a compromise, converting down from 525 to 520 for example provides better acceleration due to less drag on the transmission, however you are sacrificing chain strength and life
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fzr's chains are 428 but i upgraded to 520 and its hell loads better, dunno what the advantages are tho.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
Fzr's chains are 428 but i upgraded to 520 and its hell loads better, dunno what the advantages are tho.


Stronger, and a wider variety of 520 over 428 items on sale.

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PostPosted: 01:12 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Embarassed thanks
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys!

If I replace both sprockets as well then I don't have to worry about the chain being the same pitch and width as the original, as long as it fits the sprokets, right?

Which would bring me to the next question: do all sprokets fit the same? Ignoring the ratio of teeth between them, but do they all bolt on the same way? I've got a Gilera Coguar (italian)...
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ted wrote:
If I replace both sprockets as well then I don't have to worry about the chain being the same pitch and width as the original, as long as it fits the sprokets, right?


Yes, but remember that if the chain pitch is different then the number of links in the chain to make it the same length overall will also change.

Ted wrote:
Which would bring me to the next question: do all sprokets fit the same? Ignoring the ratio of teeth between them, but do they all bolt on the same way? I've got a Gilera Coguar (italian)...


No, they change between different bikes. Different number of mounting bolts (or even studs), different PCD for the mounting bolts, different centre circle size, different offsets, etc.

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PostPosted: 15:09 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:

No, they change between different bikes. Different number of mounting bolts (or even studs), different PCD for the mounting bolts, different centre circle size, different offsets, etc


Arse, I thought that would be the case, but I was hoping it wouldn't be!

How high are the chances that most italian sprokets are the same fixings?
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty close to zero.

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PostPosted: 19:07 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh you say you have a gilera coguar!? Ok then, can you tell me if your spindle has a nut either side of it?! Im doing one at the moment and im waiting on a spindle because the fucker needed cutting off
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 04 Oct 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rear wheel spindle? Yeah, its got a nut either side, 17mm I think...
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