Iran strike soon? PLEASE READ

[Kris]

It seems the war-drums have started once again.

In rhetoric worryingly similar to that before the Iraq strike, the media is filling with stories highlighting the increased tensions between the US/UK and Iran.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7061991.stm

Attack on Iran 'imminent'...

https://www.nysun.com/article/63561

Now, this post aimed to try to get you to think about this carefully and not spout off without reading some things that have occured recently regarding this situation. Don't be like most, constantly regurgitating the war-mongoring we constantlly have to suffer. Not mentioning any names, mind.

In the last few years, the CIA have been funding militant groups (Jundullah) working against Iran from within it's borders to cause 'instability and regime change'.... with bombs..

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=E3KMWW5VVIXZNQFIQMFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/05/27/wiran27.xml

And more recently, UK special forces have been in firefights from within Iran's borders. Yes, you know those lovely SAS guys...

https://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1192380613977

with resulting 'mystery' explosions and casualties...

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4271011.stm

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6363181.stm

https://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20070215/ai_n18629331

Meanwhile, Russia has been condemning any planned attacks whilst evacuating it's staff for fears of an attack...

https://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/011007_russia_evacuates.htm

Anyway, the fresh increased tensions (remember all this year we were supposed to hate them for wanting nuclear power?) are supposedly about Iran supplying Al-Queda terrorists in Iraq.

Unfortunately the war-mongers forgot that Al-Queda are sworn enemies of Iranians, secondly different factions of Muslims (Sunni's vs Shi'ites) and thirdly not actually responsible. Doesn't stop the propaganda though. Even US government officials admit 'no proof'.

https://pressesc.com/01181866305_burns_is_lying_according_to_gates

https://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/180306TDS.htm

^^watch this video NOW!

The US public voted in favour of Democrats earlier in the year to limit and restrict growing tensions. Now political pressure from all sides is pushing for war with Iran. this includes the very Democrats who were promising to 'get tough' on Bush and funding...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/22/wclinton122.xml

Anyway, I hope you lot read this and make your own minds up. Please don't let us believe the lies AGAIN. Remember Iraq?

Thanks for listening.

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[Chriss]

They got oil?

Petrol prices are getting rather high.
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[Mister James]

Funny how - when people do make their own minds up - you roundly condemn them as warmongers or idiots. I guess it's ok for people to believe anything they like, as long as it falls in line with your own views.

The media may well be hyping up the tensions - a senior US military official was far more circumspect earlier when interviewed earlier in the week, tacitly admitting that there wasn't much left in the cupboard if an invasion was required (which it wouldn't be - the intention would be to destroy military targets, not take and hold territory).
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[Kris]

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[LeeR]

Oooh three wars in the same region, we can't even win the two we're currently involved in.
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[Itchy]

[Mister James]

Good to know that the 'warmongers' aren't the only ones who allegedly fabricate problems to get excited about.
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[Harold_Shand]

Ah, shit. More good blokes off to the grave for a hopeless, shameful cause.

[Yoko]

Wait till things start hotting up with the US & China...

Cold War II any one?
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[Mister James]

China isn't stupid either - they know they are going to win, so they will provoke some form of conflict to hasten that 'happy' day.
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[Yoko]

They could do that easily but supporting the likes of the Taliban.

Just like back in the day Russia passed weapons to the IRA to help stir things up.

Two super powers would probably never go toe to toe as it would inevitably end with the use of nuclear weapons. They are most likely to play the cat and mouse game as well as get their fingers in to as many pies as they can and stir it up for each other.
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[Mister James]

You're too slow Yoko - it's already done.

China has been stealing US military technology for decades, and is rapidly gaining influence in Africa - especially amongst the pariah states that the West (rightly) refuses to deal with. Add to that the fact that even America's economy is dependent on China, and you have a rather terrifying situation in which China has effectively already won the next cold war.
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[JonB]

Haha, but it is a little known fact that the whole world could screw China over in a millisecond. Quite simply we could impose sanctions of no trading for say a month and then sit back and watch the already fragile Chinese economy go into meltdown. Like Spain are reliant on a bouyant tourist industry, China are absolutely reliant on trade with Europe and America.
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[killa]

I thought we weren't trying to 'win' the war. Just kick ass for a prolonged time and reap the benifits.
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[colin1]

America says that Iran is a bad guy for supporting insurgency in a country that America invaded and is occupying. So should Iran be happy about America invading its neighbour and threatening to invade Iran ?

America destabilises its neighbours in south america for years by funding terrorists, to try to avoid hostile governments coming to power.

Why should Iran allow Iraq to become a stable launch pad for an invasion of Iran ?

So i guess Americas plan is a decade or so of sanctions to cripple the country as they did with Iraq, and then they move in to Iran, with Iraq still in a mess probably.

Saddam wasnt Hitler. Its Bush who is Hitler. Its Bush who is invading countries and threatening to invade more, not Iran.
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[Itchy]

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[Itchy]

Slant oil drilling? , kind of ironic how Saddam accused Kuwait of doing this in 91 , and we may have to resort to it ourselves!.
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