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PostPosted: 01:34 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

This video is a 6.5 minute montage made up of nothing but quotations made by the Bush administration before, during, and after the Iraq war.

It's the best and most precise way of proving the entire admin of being full of complete bullshit. I cannot see how even the most hard-line right wing nutjob can defend their actions after this video (unless they've got their own fingers in the pie).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a safe bet that Bush himself is insane but I don't think he runs anything, much less makes important decisions.

Only last week in a press conference he claimed that Saddam killed Nelson Mandela and college kids killed thousands by crashing planes. Nobody in the room knew what he was on about but they left it at that. Confused

He's a puppet president,an alchoholic no good father who was a coward in the military and always reliant upon his father's cocaine trafficking cash.

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PostPosted: 10:41 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have some Thumbs Up on me, although I have seen it before, it's always worth another viewing. I wonder how many of us think the UK government is any less dishonest.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder how many of us think the UK government is any less dishonest.


Only complete cretins.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
cestrian wrote:
I wonder how many of us think the UK government is any less dishonest.


Only complete cretins.


Indeed. I'm starting to get a sneaky suspicion that we have our own string pullers who's goals are no better than the evil bastards behind the Bush admin. David Kelly, 7/7, Saudi Arabia's links to Britain, it all stinks of foul play.

I'd like to say that in 20 years time I'd run for Prime-Minister and sort this country out once and for all. But in all honesty, I'd fear for my life. I wouldn't be surprised at all if anyone who stands up for decency and common sense nowadays (including what true democracy is, not this half-hearted shit they shove down our throats) was found very similar to Dr Kelly.

The western world as a whole is going the wrong way, and if we don't change it soon it may be too late.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indeed. I'm starting to get a sneaky suspicion that we have our own string pullers who's goals are no better than the evil bastards behind the Bush admin. David Kelly, 7/7, Saudi Arabia's links to Britain, it all stinks of foul play.

I'd like to say that in 20 years time I'd run for Prime-Minister and sort this country out once and for all. But in all honesty, I'd fear for my life. I wouldn't be surprised at all if anyone who stands up for decency and common sense nowadays (including what true democracy is, not this half-hearted shit they shove down our throats) was found very similar to Dr Kelly.

The western world as a whole is going the wrong way, and if we don't change it soon it may be too late.


You're not alone in your thoughts matey. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:


Indeed. I'm starting to get a sneaky suspicion that we have our own string pullers who's goals are no better than the evil bastards behind the Bush admin. David Kelly, 7/7, Saudi Arabia's links to Britain, it all stinks of foul play.

I'd like to say that in 20 years time I'd run for Prime-Minister and sort this country out once and for all. But in all honesty, I'd fear for my life. I wouldn't be surprised at all if anyone who stands up for decency and common sense nowadays (including what true democracy is, not this half-hearted shit they shove down our throats) was found very similar to Dr Kelly.

The western world as a whole is going the wrong way, and if we don't change it soon it may be too late.


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PostPosted: 13:02 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone out there want to start a political party? No shit.

I wish I was kidding. A few years ago maybe I would be. But I can't just sit around any more and watch these people degrade our country and our freedom's into nothing. I just can't sit idly by and let them do it.

I'd do it myself but I'm a 19 year old University student, and no one in the political scene would take me seriously. But someone with another 10, 20 years on their life would at least get looked at. I think there is a lot of underground support for someone who would actually uphold true British values.

I know it sounds stupid. Starting a political party on a biker website? Rediculous I know. But at least in 20 years time when we're recovering from WWIII I can say "Hey! At least I tried to change things back when we had a chance!".


--- Believe it or not, I tried to make this post an hour ago and the website was just hanging. Must be a co-incidence though I'm sure.

Yeah... co-incidence... yup...
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only way to change things is to make the things that are being changed into profitable,

profits are the driving forces behind change usually.

thus more liberty more voting rights etc = need for more profits.

Take for example post office closures, the PO is quite a nice little combined into one company, however various services were stripped from it to other competitor companies , ie you can't renew your TV licence at the PO any more,

this was under the guise of "more choice" ,

when in reality a very large bribe was paid into the swiss bank accounts of certain people in power.


Ditto with Digital TV and more choice , the only reason there is a change to Digital isn't more choice but so all the Analogue band can be rented out, and thus more profits be made from it.

same can be said about virtually EVERY government policy last 5-10 years,
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference with UK corruption to that of the US is that our leaders do it far more discreetly.

I mean come on, our major TV/Radio provider is fucking paid for by the government.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigie b wrote:
The difference with UK corruption to that of the US is that our leaders do it far more discreetly.

I mean come on, our major TV/Radio provider is fucking paid for by the government.


not any more, in the past they'd have quit or be stuck in prison as many tories will attest!,

but like a certain Bolton MP , abused her £10K extra expenses claim (this is to be used to educate the electorate as to how politics works online) she said sorry and the matter was dropped.

Or when Blunkie was caught insider trading he quit got a 250K pay off and it was dropped, plenty of things like that happen they don't even hide it anymore.

discreet = bad though as all the corruption we have seen is probably only the tip of the iceberg
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but like a certain Bolton MP , abused her £10K extra expenses claim (this is to be used to educate the electorate as to how politics works online) she said sorry and the matter was dropped.

Or when Blunkie was caught insider trading he quit got a 250K pay off and it was dropped, plenty of things like that happen they don't even hide it anymore.


I think that more examples of MP's being caught out by other MP's who are disgruntled or wish to make a minor power play. The real big corruption is very well hidden from the public eye and would never see the light of day let alone a court IMO.
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of angry americans......

My chiropractor (he certainly is getting mentioned a lot these days) is a Yank. One day we got chatting about fighting sports and I mentioned that I thought Muhammed Ali was a great man. This led the guy to start ranting about how he was going to hell, along with every other Asian who didn't believe in Christ. He then preached to me for the next ten minutes.

Now I found that someone could believe the bul of the worlds people were going to hell because they didn't have this mans red neck education or beliefs. That scared me and it suggested that he had some extreme beliefs. Oh, how I was right.

Next time I was there we got talking about Iraq. I said the whole had became a farce and America had done little for the world. He retorted well if it was for the oil then why was oil so expensive. I pointed out that oil had certainly went up in price but the BIG oil company's had posted record profits year in and year out so by reducing the flow of oil had actually made American corporations a fat wad of cash for less product. I knew at the start of this conversation that I was going to wind the cunt up, I could tell from the previous encounter that he was a man who could not 'listen' to another opinion other than his own, but his argument was so badly informed that I couldn't resist.

Anyway, the fact someone had the gual to challenge him regarding US foreign policy sent him in a very badly restrained fit of rage. I mean there was veins popping out his fucking head (whilst he was carrying out the manipulations I may add). He started ranting about how the US was gods chosen people (seriously), how ungrateful the entire world was at the US (obviously so fucking stupid he cannot separate having an opinion on US foreign policy from your general opinion on the US).

Further to that he started ranting about how the UK and Europe was just a bunch of socialists and the UK was nothing more than a sub standard power, which wound me up because it seemed ok for him to have a derogatory opinion on things because he was American and righteous, but if you disliked anything he said then you were obviously against them and possibly part of the problem.

I should point out, whilst I was knocking the US's foreign policy, I was also taking shots at the UK's, to see if he could register that you can have a bad opinion of one area yet still like something....Oh the fool me.

I'm afraid to say most Americans I've had the misfortune of meeting display these traits but this one was by far the worse I've ever, ever seen.

I was tempted not to go back (at one point I thought I was gonna have to lay the fella out), but, unlike him, I can separate issues. He's good at his work and now when I visit I don't have to endure ten minutes of his fucking Yank drivel, he just clicks and I go.

Result. Thumbs Up

Sorry California Rookie, I'm sure the above is in no way a reflection of yourself or friends, but like the drunk British on holiday, that is often the type of people who represent your country, from my experiences.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of governments, and just for fun I lifted this from another site.....

Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 600 employees and has the following statistics?
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
4 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year

Which organization is this?

It's the 635 members of the House of Commons, the same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 12 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cestrian wrote:
On the subject of governments, and just for fun I lifted this from another site.....

Can you imagine working for a company that has a little more than 600 employees and has the following statistics?
29 have been accused of spouse abuse
7 have been arrested for fraud
19 have been accused of writing bad cheques
117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
3 have done time for assault
71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
4 have been arrested on drug-related charges
8 have been arrested for shoplifting
21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
84 have been arrested for drink driving in the last year

Which organization is this?

It's the 635 members of the House of Commons, the same group that cranks out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us in line.


I didn't know you could become (or be) an MP if you had a criminal record. Shocked
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
This video is a 6.5 minute montage made up of..complete bullshit.

See how easy it is to take things out of context? And how in the hell is a 6.5 minute montage "the best and most precise way" of...well...anything?


It's absurdly easy to catch someone, especially a politician, with their foot in their mouth. It's even easier when you've got the liberal media shoving it in at every opportunity. Granted, this is some important shit and they should at least be able to remember what they said on the topic a few years earlier but, they're only human.

On the topic of liberals, the fact is, we actually do need them. The US does, anyway. To introduce new ideas into the conservative establishment, which will then tweak them to make them profitable. As Itchy said, it's all about the bottom line. Problem is, the Dem's think of the country as a fucking charity and they'd like nothing more than to run it as such. However, I doubt we'll be receiving any donations anytime soon. That being the case, and given the choice, I'd much rather have my country being run as a business, even if the ones running said business are a little shady.

And of the "War on Terror", my overly simplistic view is this; The US were attacked by terrorists. We attacked back. They fled. Iraq, among other places, surfaced as a safe harbor for the terrorists. Iraq also had the capacity to attack us with weapons of mass destruction. We removed the possibility of that happening. Now, we are left to clean up the mess. A much bigger mess than we anticipated. What? You don't think they're terrorists if they're just "defending their country"? Who defends their country by blowing up three times more* of their own citizens than those that they're defending it from?

And Craigie, the man's obviously a moron. He's a masseuse, in a foriegn country, singing the praises of the country he's left to anyone who'll listen. I mean, really. And the only other Americans you're likely to meet are tourists and students on holiday. Yeah, good luck meeting one of us that isn't a complete douche. Wink

*No, that's not a real statistic. So don't go hunting for the real figures to shove down my throat. I'm just generalizing.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

california_rookie wrote:
The US were attacked by terrorists.


I'd like to know when this was please. Question

If you're referring to 9/11, last time I checked they still had no evidence it was who they said it was...
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Time to post the 'false flag' attack video......
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

california_rookie wrote:
Iraq also had the capacity to attack us with weapons of mass destruction.


Standard moron-test question to all Yanks:

"Do you know where Austria is? Clue: It's not a continent". Wink
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

One thing about that video that is absolutely sickening is bush at his dinner party joking about how they didn't find any wmds. How the fuck can you joke about rampaging through a country killing thousands of innocent civilians that you are supposed to be saving? They don't give a fuck about anyone other than themselves and this whole thing is just a game to them.

He is a war criminal of the highest order and should be locked up with all of his other associates. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 13 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: How to create an Angry American Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
One thing about that video that is absolutely sickening is bush at his dinner party joking about how they didn't find any wmds. How the fuck can you joke about rampaging through a country killing thousands of innocent civilians that you are supposed to be saving? They don't give a fuck about anyone other than themselves and this whole thing is just a game to them.

He is a war criminal of the highest order and should be locked up with all of his other associates. Thumbs Down


Along with Bliar.
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd damned well better know where Austria is. Both my governor and my favorite energy drink are from there.
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PostPosted: 02:34 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, Kris, I'll restrain myself from being insulting and simply state that should the US government have decided to stage a terrorist attack on itself, staging a thwarted hijacking attempt or two and a few falsified pieces of intercepted intelligence indicating it was Osama, or whoever, would have been more than enough to sway public opinion in favor of taking action. There's simply no way in hell Bush, or anyone under his command ordered the deaths of so many innocent people. And to think so is pure stupidity. Oops. I lied about not being insulting. Sorry.
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PostPosted: 03:44 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There's simply no way in hell Bush, or anyone under his command ordered the deaths of so many innocent people. And to think so is pure stupidity. Oops. I lied about not being insulting. Sorry.


That was not what Kris said, he correctly pointed to the lack of evidence ever released to the public. Now given the US's credibility on evidence (I seem to recall Colin Powell squirming his way through the UN presentation showing 3D diagrams of the mobile chemical plants and him later recalling, once he had quit, that he even felt the evidence was shakey) it is a fair statement to make I feel.

Whilst I doubt Bushes direct explicit involvement in 9/11, I feel it naive to believe incidents that cause high death tolls are beyond the remit of our leaders if they feel it benefits the nation as a whole in the long term.
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PostPosted: 06:14 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't disagree with your final point, craigie. I would like to think that my government would do almost anything for the long-term good of the nation. I am, however, convinced that 9/11 was not an example of this.
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