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lllN30lll
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: what does fully comp mean. Reply with quote

n00b question I know but.

I only passed my test last year so insurance is a new thing to me, I went fully comp on my R1 before it was stolen.

but what does fully comp mean? what do i get?

the R1 is on Finance from D&K, when the insurance pay me out do they pay me out the value of the R1? or do they pay off the whole finance?

if they pay me the bikes value do I just buy a new bike and carry on paying the finance?

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PostPosted: 22:57 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: what does fully comp mean. Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
n00b question I know but.

I only passed my test last year so insurance is a new thing to me, I went fully comp on my R1 before it was stolen.

but what does fully comp mean? what do i get?

the R1 is on Finance from D&K, when the insurance pay me out do they pay me out the value of the R1? or do they pay off the whole finance?

if they pay me the bikes value do I just buy a new bike and carry on paying the finance?

cheers


they will probly pay you the amount the bike is worth on their books, either directly to your finance or to you either way you will be left with intrest to pay i should suspect.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you get the money, then you can settle finance and take out a new agreement on a new bike.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They pay you the book price for the bike. You still have to carry on paying the finance off as if nothing has happened.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
They pay you the book price for the bike. You still have to carry on paying the finance off as if nothing has happened.

thought so, with the money I get back I can get another 04-06 bike for 4.5k, leaving me hopefully with about 1 to 1.5k to spend on mods/security
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Re: what does fully comp mean. Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
n00b question I know but.

I only passed my test last year so insurance is a new thing to me, I went fully comp on my R1 before it was stolen.

but what does fully comp mean? what do i get?

the R1 is on Finance from D&K, when the insurance pay me out do they pay me out the value of the R1? or do they pay off the whole finance?

if they pay me the bikes value do I just buy a new bike and carry on paying the finance?

cheers


Fully comp means "fully comprehensive" which means that you get paid the book value (not necessarily what you paid for it ) of the bike in the event of a total loss even if the accident was your own fault so long as you were operating within the terms of your insurance. It's the highest insurance cover you can normally get (and usually insisted-upon by the finance company).

The other common types of insurance are "third party, fire and theft" and "third party only". These will essentially pay for another persons damages if you cause an accident, they will not pay for your bike if you smash it into a hedge, nor will they get involved if someone else causes you damage except to pass the claim onto your claims team (which will be an independant company) to fight for your damages. You normally have to pay a bit extra for that service (£25 ish).
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

lllN30lll wrote:
Finglonga wrote:
They pay you the book price for the bike. You still have to carry on paying the finance off as if nothing has happened.

thought so, with the money I get back I can get another 04-06 bike for 4.5k, leaving me hopefully with about 1 to 1.5k to spend on mods/security


Legally if you are not in possession of the bike you have to pay it up, since the HP agreement you have is secured on something you no longer have. It's actually not even your property until you pay up in full.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 14 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the finance, most are geared up so the interest is all calculated upfront so as long as you don't default on the payments then just keep paying the monthly amount and use the insurance money to buy something else.
Officially you should inform the finance company as by rights they own the vehicle until you pay the loan in full but nobody worries about that Wink

The insurance will make you an offer based on the book value minus any policy excess, don't accept their first offer as it will be low, do your homework and work out the actual value that bikes like yours are selling for and refer them to examples in the classifieds specifically traders as they tend to price higher. It doesn't always work but more often than not you can negotiate a little more.

Just don't hold your hopes out for getting what you paid for it.

Good luck fella Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other thing to look for mate is to check if you bought 'gap insurance' which would pay off the difference between what you owe, and what the insurance pays out. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chriss wrote:
Other thing to look for mate is to check if you bought 'gap insurance' which would pay off the difference between what you owe, and what the insurance pays out. Thumbs Up


I had that on a loan and was told that if i used it (as I had paid for it) then I would incur a black mark on my credit rating. Shocked So I just carried on paying the Loan as usual.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, loads of our clients used gap insurance when we wrote their cars off. In fact, they're the easier to deal with, as they don't care how much they get for their car, they won't see a penny! Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GSXR was bought on DK's finance, I didnt even tell them when I sold it on and just kept up the repayements.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gsxrmick wrote:
My GSXR was bought on DK's finance, I didnt even tell them when I sold it on and just kept up the repayements.


Ah but then you moved into yet another legal minefield...

I don't know who you sold it on to - another individual or a dealer (and it doesn't really matter), but if there is outstanding finance secured against the bike then I am fairly sure that you didn't legally have 'good title' to sell it. Ie the bike doesn't technically become your property until the final payment is made and you should settle the finance before selling the bike.

Its not too much of a problem if you don't tell the finance people and you keep up the repayments, but if you should default on them then the finance people will be after repossessing of the bike, regardless of who now thinks that they own it. The 'good title' doesn't pass to the new owner because you never had it in the first place. The 'good title' remains with the finance people. That is the reason why most people won't buy a secondhand bike that is still subject to a finance agreement.

This is only a brief description of the basic workings of a finance agreement secured upon a vehicle. Like I say it is a legal minefield and there are a lot of ifs, buts and maybes mixed in there too. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 15 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

As above, although finance secured on a bike is not as common these days. Too easy for the finance company to get burnt.

All the best

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