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Have you made a will?
Yes, of course. I am very much prepared
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No, but I need to do it very soon
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No, and I am not bothered. I shall never die!!!!!!
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Who is prepared? Reply with quote

Ho Ho Ho

No, this is not a thread about who has done their Christmas shopping already Rolling Eyes Laughing ...

This evening the OH and I did our wills. Not the most exciting and fun of things to do, but nevetheless essential

As OH is off to Iraq, a requirement was that he HAD to do a will before leaving. We hadn't really thought about it before, as we don't have much money, we have a house sure.... but there is loads left on the mortgage....
But it's things like our kid, how and where we want to be buried/cremated, if we want flowers or not!!?? Shocked I didn't realise there is so much detail.
Reserve executors, this that, blah blah

So it's done now. We just have to get it all witnessed in a week when it's been all typed and stuff

When I asked in the office where I work, about 40% had wills, the rest didn't. And these are people with kids and houses and all the gubbins!

So, who is as a boy scout, prepared for the inevitable?

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PostPosted: 20:42 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheres the option for I don't have anything worth leaving behind so I don't see the point?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
Wheres the option for I don't have anything worth leaving behind so I don't see the point?


Not even a bike? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ncrn wrote:
Wheres the option for I don't have anything worth leaving behind so I don't see the point?


Much the same as me apart from my bike and furniture. And dont really care, I worry in case i die before my pets though what will happen to them Eh?
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in my early 20s and hence will never die.

I'm also a student so have bugger all to leave people, and I trust my family to give me a good send off if the unthinkable does happen.

I'll think about a will when I start thinking about pensions.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dragonfly wrote:
ncrn wrote:
Wheres the option for I don't have anything worth leaving behind so I don't see the point?


Much the same as me apart from my bike and furniture. And dont really care, I worry in case i die before my pets though what will happen to them Eh?


Yeah, pets are a worry. Not everyone likes animals.
I don't want them ending up in some shelter Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friggin' 'ell, ok, ok, everyone gets it... your boyfriend is going to Iraq.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's something that the good lady wife and I keep meaning to sort out. If one of us pops our clogs, the other simply gets everything, but if we were both to go at the same time then we need to say what should happen to the house and contents. I'd rather it burn than any part of the government or banking system get it.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

JodieWodie wrote:
ncrn wrote:
Wheres the option for I don't have anything worth leaving behind so I don't see the point?


Not even a bike? Crying or Very sad


I have a bike but I found it on its side earlier so I doubt its really worth much anymore now the fairings are even more smashed..
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

im 17 i own nothing and will never die. and yes I am superman












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PostPosted: 21:44 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 19 and own very little of value apart from my bike.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 23 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wills are over rated,

a client in my old work place had one, I was there for the reading as executer,

it said all to mother,

and thats it,

Wills can be easily changed post mortem, just requires a signature and me to charge you £150 for the paperwork and liase with HMRC and other parties.

Me I have very little my net worth probably being < £20000,

You only need an efficient will if you have assets worth over 280K
otherwise don't bother, worst comes to worst you die Intestate which means IF/when (nobody is immortal) your OH dies you get it all,

As said you only need a will if you have 280K of assets your partner has 280K of assets , thus if you want to leave it to a child you effectively skip a generation ,

rather than OH dies gives you 280K , making your death estate worth 560K and being raped on 40% IHT and thus £112K.

Which is an enourmous hole in anybody's pocket,
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe also that should a will result in an less than optimal tax position, the beneficiaries can change the will easily to maximise efficiency. In effect the will is only your opinion, which is easily disregarded when you've gone. Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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rather than OH dies gives you 280K , making your death estate worth 560K and being raped on 40% IHT and thus £112K.



Unless you're married or in a civil partnership, in which case the allowance is doubled. They changed it a couple of months ago..........

We both have wills as we are not married, made them a few years ago but will probably be looking to update them soon as things have changed since then.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

A will to me is about as useful as life insurance. Given that I have no dependants, if I'm dead, I wont be worrying about it.

Although I have left instructions that my body should be disposed of at public expense, if I cark it, nobody is to claim the body or pay any bill that might be sent for its disposal.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wondered what would happen if i popped it. Could someone suggest how my assets would be divided up;

Only debt against my name is my £10K student loan.

Assets / capital;

£10k premium binds
~£1K savings
Motorbike & Car & Montainbikes

Would my financial assets be used to pay off my student loan, or would that be written off? Either way, i live with my dad so i assume that he'll get the rest of my general crap.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyyam wrote:
Itchy wrote:
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rather than OH dies gives you 280K , making your death estate worth 560K and being raped on 40% IHT and thus £112K.



Unless you're married or in a civil partnership, in which case the allowance is doubled. They changed it a couple of months ago..........

We both have wills as we are not married, made them a few years ago but will probably be looking to update them soon as things have changed since then.


what? , what was that thread about 7 months ago about wedding rings and the stones falling out of them about then?

The allowance isn't doubled , it was a smoke and mirrors government trick as per usual

There already is an effective double IHT band for married couples , its just the previously you had to split assets to ensure it was used properly. Typical government trick , ie they restated the law in this area to make it look like it changed but hasn't.

While now there is less need for it, ie splitting of assets, I however thought of a clever IHT trick recently which requires no wills, but a very simple £15 solicitor's attestment thing.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

cagiva gezzer wrote:
I've always wondered what would happen if i popped it. Could someone suggest how my assets would be divided up;

Only debt against my name is my £10K student loan.

Assets / capital;

£10k premium binds
~£1K savings
Motorbike & Car & Montainbikes

Would my financial assets be used to pay off my student loan, or would that be written off? Either way, i live with my dad so i assume that he'll get the rest of my general crap.


Student loans are written off on your death, unless they have been sold on.

1K savings would go to your dad or whoever you want tax free,

your bikes would be valved at probate and probably be worth less than 300K and therefore they would also be passed on tax free.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anybody know what the situation is with foreign residents? Would the UK law or the Finnish one apply, should I die intestate here (no relatives in the UK)?

In Finland, my parents would inherit; if they were to die before me, my sister would, then her children.

But as they're over there, and I'm over here, would the UK government take everything? Shocked If so, can I even name a foreign resident and citizen as a beneficiary in my will?
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Does anybody know what the situation is with foreign residents? Would the UK law or the Finnish one apply, should I die intestate here (no relatives in the UK)?

In Finland, my parents would inherit; if they were to die before me, my sister would, then her children.

But as they're over there, and I'm over here, would the UK government take everything? Shocked If so, can I even name a foreign resident and citizen as a beneficiary in my will?


depends on domicile.

thinking wayy back to my tax exams , non Doms don't pay it on their WORLD assets, but you might have to pay it on your assets which are situated here, but as said I';ve not looked at my tax books for a while, but if your estate is worth less than 280K don't bother.

Hell I think I should setup shop , keep giving all this tax advice away for free , me bosses charge £200 an hour for this,
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy, I own a one bedroom flat in London, so I'm practically a paper millionaire... Laughing

I'm probably domiciled here, as I'm on the electoral roll, have NI number, pay my taxes here.

Looks like I need to visit a lawyer, as would hate Liz to take it all should the inevitable happen.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Itchy, I own a one bedroom flat in London, so I'm practically a paper millionaire... Laughing

I'm probably domiciled here, as I'm on the electoral roll, have NI number, pay my taxes here.

Looks like I need to visit a lawyer, as would hate Liz to take it all should the inevitable happen.



no no Domicile has no hard fast rules it is based upon intent,

effectively it is where you call home,

if you dad is a erm Finnish bloke you inherit it from him , but you live here for a certain number of years and the UK becomes your dom.


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Domicile involves complex issues of law. An individual can be resident in more than one country at the same time, but can only have one domicile. A person is generally domiciled where his or her permanent home is situated. A ‘domicile of origin' is acquired at birth, normally from one's father. The domicile of a minor normally follows that of the person on whom he or she is legally dependant (a ‘domicile of dependency'). However, a ‘domicile of choice' can be acquired from age 16. This broadly involves leaving the current country of domicile to settle in another country, and requires strong proof of having moved to the other country permanently or indefinitely. Living in another country is not conclusive evidence of an intention to change domicile.


strong proof includes:

citizenship though this is inconclusive Verty who's daughter I'm trying to knobble , was legally stateless for a while and has 4 citizenships.

buying a home there,

selling up UK assets

joining clubs etc there

things like that up to the HMRC commissars to decide


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since your primary assets are based in the UK , you will be raped by the IHT when you die, as said nobody is immortal.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
A will to me is about as useful as life insurance. Given that I have no dependants, if I'm dead, I wont be worrying about it.

Although I have left instructions that my body should be disposed of at public expense, if I cark it, nobody is to claim the body or pay any bill that might be sent for its disposal.


Evil or Very Mad The least you could do is make a will and leave me your big trail bike Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sod all left to give away.
Whoever finds the cash first can have it Wink

Andy will have my bike/s anyway.
And Anita will have the cats.

Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 24 Nov 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
And Anita will have the cats.


Can't you make a will that states should you die that I get the cats..... and Anita....
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