'Giving way' to buses?

[Polo]

Bike related query.

My estate has lots of tight left and right handed junctions.

Now, I am aware of the 'give way to buses' rule but just where does this rule end? I swear I am going to meet my demise in the front of one of these buses. At many of the numerous T-junctions on my estate, I will be approaching the junction wanting to do a right and positioned so. Then a bus comes along to turn into the road I am just coming to a stop at. They see me, yet the carry on without letting off the brakes and either cause me to do an emergency stop or perform a swerve avoidance.

If one was to hit me, whilst I am in my lane - what do you think the insurance outcome would be? Out of interest? I would especially like to here if someone has been on the receiving end?
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[NSR Mick]

If you are in your lane theres no contest. Buses do take the piss. You do have to appreciate why they do come into your lane but theres no excuse if they can see that your coming.
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[Aikman666]

In my understanding you only give way to busses when you would normally give way to a car. The only time I give way to busses is when they're pulling out - as its understandably quite hard to spot a biker - better safe than sorry
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[AC]

The give way to buses, on my understanding, is that the give way only applies when they are pulling out from a bus stop and you are coming up behind them.

As for a bus turning into a t-junction, in the way you describe, isnt when when the give way to buses applies (my understanding). The problem that buses have is the amount of space that is required to make turns into t-junctions and the time it would take for them to stop. If they were to stop for you to continue your maneuver, they would still be in your way - due to their size they are unable to move any closer to the kerb as they would then mount the pavement.

[Polo]

Then surely on that basis, knowing they need to cross lanes, should they not approach the corner assuming a vehicle is coming and the need to stop is likely? Thus - slow the hell down?

What I am seeing is 'I'm coming and I am not stopping'.
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[Itchy]

nope never ever ever ever ever ever ever times infinity,

Buses around Manchester already have 50% of the road to themselves in the form of bus lanes, what grates me is that buses don't actually use bus lanes , or when they do they often find the need to over take each other and thus popping into other lanes which are not bus lanes.

if that makes any sense.

Those bendy ones are worst , block up entire junctions I did let one out once and it blocked up the whole road ,
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[Itchy]

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My routes were never that rushed(well maybe some).But either way its no excuse for the way most bus drivers use the roads.

Sometimes you do have to sit and wait a while like 1 route might normally take 1 hour,but sometimes you dont get as many passengers so you do it in 45 mins.
If you get to your next stop early and issue a ticket the bus company will know you were running early and give you a telling off.
They cant do anything if your running late so why the big rush.
There should be a small police force out there watching for these dodgy bus drivers that are giving the rest of us a bad name.
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[Noxious89123]

Bus vs Biker = Splunch

Therefore buses always have the right of way
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[Stoo]

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[binge]

Agree`d, buses here in Medway don't give a fuck about other road users either. Piss take.
Thing that annoys me is that every bus I see is less than half full. Why cant they just put smaller buses on the roads. Buses take up both lanes when taking corners etc. They are too big.

[Ravo]

[krebsy]

In my youth (gosh, I sound old) I had a bus pull out on me when cycling past it. such a shame I had worn bar ends/grips with the handlebar poking out. Such a shame I had to lean into the bus (to avoid getting squashed against a car. Such a shame I then had to hit the brakes and gouge a 2 ft long and 1 inch wide line in the bright orange paintwork....

K.
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[pa_broon74]

The busses in Edinburgh aren't that bad. Don't get me wrong, they are utter shit to sit in but in terms of road usage/observation; they're ok. I've been let out and/or past once or twice by drivers who've known that being on a bike isn't going to hold them back.

That said... While the busses generally use the bus lanes where ever they can, taxis don't. Crawling along at 15mph looking for a fair. You just know that if you try to under take them, it'll be just then that some old granny laden with Jenner's bags sticks her crusty old hand out to flag it (and you) down.

The whole "bus stopping and waiting for no reason" is really irritating. I had to use pleb transport on Monday, sure enough the bus stopped and idled for 3 minutes. No reason for this as during rush hour theres a number 22 every 6 minutes, no way could they ever keep exactly to that time...

Keeping on topic... At the end of the day, if a bus is approaching on your side of the road, probably best to give way. You're right though, they do need to slow right down if they're going to go over the centre lines...

To summarise: I would rather die than use public transport, grannies have crusty old hands and no; the busses don't have right of way but unless you want squashed; probably best to give way anyway.
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[Noxious89123]

I want a bigger bike so i can overtake stationary buses at 150mph on the rear wheel
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[brier88]

On the subject of buses, do you ever get hose c*ntish ones who see you signl for them to stop ages away and then just drive past while looking at you?

F*cking annoying when you're trying to get to your CBT on time...

Brier