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clemsta
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Derestricting a 1988 Honda SH50 City Express Reply with quote

My brother has one of these and it will only do 28mph, he just wants a little more speed, 35-40mph.

Any ideas?

Thanks

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baldy
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

been looking around and some say it is not de-restrictable but others say it is very hard. No info on how to do it though.

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clemsta
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 08 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks for looking,

anyone else know anything?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

clemsta wrote:
ok thanks for looking,

anyone else know anything?


I would have said, if it is anything like the City express that my brother had, that it is not derestricable. Only because it is not restricted in the first place, just slow. So you are more looking at how to tune the engine to go faster rather than looking at how to remove a restrictor that isn't there.

I think my brother got 45 out of his once with drilled out baffles, bell mouth on the carb, al the bodywork stripped off, a bigger main jet and running it on a cocktail of petrol and nitromethylene (for model aeroplanes)..... It heat seized after about 20 minutes. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkywheely wrote:
I think my brother got 45 out of his


I think everyone should buy a honda c90. Fast enough and last forever
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

baldy wrote:

I think everyone should buy a honda c90. Fast enough and last forever


Agreed, but I presume he is 16 if he is riding a city-express so a cub is out of the question.

A c50 on the other hand will do 45mph all day long Smile
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 09 Aug 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkywheely wrote:
It heat seized after about 20 minutes. Rolling Eyes

A good reason why not to try and tune a 50cc. Laughing Thumbs Up

He might find he can get a little bit (and we're talking like 1-2mph) going down hill but he's not going to be setting any land speed records with it.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 17 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im waiting on a Technigas exhaust and new variator set up for my sh50 so one on il let you know if any difference. should be done in the next 2 weeks.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 18 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does a city express have a variator? I always thought they used an expanding shoe clutch.

Maybe the newer ones don't?
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 28 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still waiting ...Parts should be with me next week only found out that Italy supplier SHUTS for August...wtf. Any way sh50 does have a Variator drive. Looking to slightly drop the roller weight and get some more acceleration from a derestricted exhaust. Not looking to have the bike looking like Street hawk lol (remember that tv show) anyway il keep all you 50cc guys and galls updated, Wish i had took up bikeing years ago. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 09 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok finally recived my Malossi Variator kit, rollers, drive plate, ram plate belt, and rear clutch spring. £65

Ok easy enough to fit until the local chavs came along "what you doin???" after telling them to fuk of f...down to work fitted in 1 hour or so and have to say much better acceleration from start. also accelerates more constant.

where i was getting 27mph on straight now 35mph
down hill 35mph now 41 mph
up hill the same 25mph but acceleration is still there much better.
only down side is the engine is a bit revy but thats not all that bad.

so it is worth doing! Still to recive the technigas exhaust which i have been told is commin before friday.... Confused so should expect to have some more out the bike but not expecting silly speeds. would be happy with 45mph.
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 10 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

nitromethylene and petrol mix. My mate tried that on his MiniMoto and it just didnt start Plus it gubbed the spark plug.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 09 Mar 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

shammon: I have a 1985 Honda SH50 and i'm looking into doing the same urgrade as you to gain a bit more speed. What year is the sh50 that you fitted the variator to? Also have you fitted the exhaust you mentioned that you were getting? And have you seen any improvement in performance with it?
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 08 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i no this post is a bit old now, but i was just searching google about this bike, as for owning it for just 1day, i blew it up lmao... I bought the bike as a non runner for a tenner, as it only went 5mph tops lol, i changed the rollers, and made a techniegas scooter exhaust fit, i was doing 40-45 on it for about 25mins and its gone BANG.. lol... going to strip her down tomaro, and see if its rebuildable for a good price... you can derestrict the standard exhaust, on this one it had a washer on the manifold that can be bashed out...

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