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Cigaro
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Tools, and carrying them Reply with quote

After being stranded a few weeks ago I'm getting some tools and parts together so I can fix the most common problems myself by the side of the road. So far I've got:

- Socket set
- Adjustable spanner
- Screwdriver set (interchangable bits)
- Two spare inner tubes
- Spare bulbs
- Spare splitlinks
- Gaffer tape
- Insulating tape

Can anyone suggest anything else worth carrying?

Also, I've been quoted around £70 for a topbox - this seems an awful lot (to me at least!) I'm thinking of building one - can you buy the PVC board stuff that the pizzaboy topboxes are made out of? Does anyone know where?
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

take one or two spark plugs too. if you are putting them in a top box you can go well overboard on tools without it mattering. also - you have spare tubes...can you pump them up? you'll want a pump/air canister for pumping up the tyres. tyre weld would be just as good.
many people will just say 'RAC membership' and as much as i agree yes it's a good idea...not cheap for get you home (£75) and you still have to hang about. personally...i want both - tools and cover.

you should be able to buy plastic from a 'plastic shop' that sells stuff to PVC fitters...fascia boards and that sort of stuff. some will have some PVC. you could even do it in wood then put thin plastic on it to keep it water tight, the wood will give it strength,
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Box - any good army surplus place should have something suitable, if you want something less shitty looking then look around for a second-hand flight case of a suitable size, very solid and light.

Or the cheapest and bigest top box you can find on ebay thats go no keys = cheaper, add padlock.

Provided you have a decent rack on it then be open-minded about the box (indeed, think outside the box Razz) any office suppler will sell big plastic boxes theyd make perfectly adequate luggage, waterproof as well, dont expect any glances of admiration.

If you considering a pizza box you might just as well get a bag on the back tbh.

tools wise.. solderless nipples and spare cables, spare tubes and tyre fixing gear, split link for the chain, suitable tools for wheel removal, scotchlocks (for temporary wire fixing, also spare 20amp wire). in all honesty the only things that are overly likkey to go that you have a hope of fixing is

tyres
controll cables
chain
electrics
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mole grips,

general pliers

a spark plug wrench (spark plugs are pointless without this)

cable repairer

cable ties

bigger cable ties

string ,

torch of some kind for light,
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the size of your top box, a mini moto.

Or maybe some roller blades Razz
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

a set of allen keys a couple of 6mm ones , they always come in handy

fuses?
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heat shrink tubing and a disposable lighter, or self-amalgamating tape.
Length of tubing, for syphoning, or 1 litre bottle of fuel
In a sealable sandwich bag, or ziploc bag :-
£20 note
Copy of the bike's wiring diagram
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last one i got was £40 ish from Bradford M/C, which they had on ebay.
Same as This
Only advise i would give is don't rely on the quick release, bolt it to the rack, my previous one decided to quick release on the move.... lucky for me the guy behind managed to stop before he run it over Surprised


Just don't overload the box with pointless tools.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gaffa tape is all you need. Wink

Just get AA/RAC cover it will pay for itself considering the extra fuel your going to use carrying all that crap around in a top box. I just carry the standard toolkit that came with the bike and a couple of self tapping screws for temporarily sealing punctures.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maglight?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some rags/ cloths and hand wipes. I just grab a load from KFC. A mobile.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I went to Germany on the 400 I took a full socket set etc and didnt need any of it.

On the NSR that's more likely to need roadside attention than the GSXR all I carry is a big lock (incase I need to leave it anywhere) and my breakdown card as it's highly unlikely that the recovery driver will have a piston and barrel for an NSR250. Laughing and I'm not about to start carrying them with me.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably all been mentioned...

Bulbs, multitool, spanners, Allen Keys, insulating tape, gaffer tape, Maglite AA, glowsticks, foil blankets, plug socket, plugs, fuses, cable ties....

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PostPosted: 23:25 - 17 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

take a spare reliable bike balanced on your head.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get as much stuff as you can like mentioned, plug socket, socket set with all the sockets that you would need to save weight, fuses, bulbs, some form of electrical repair kit? Spare brake pads? Well on a bike fitted with pads atleast, allen keys, torx keys (star). spare speedo, clutch and throttle cables. Brake cable?

Lol hows the bike gunna move under all these spare parts?
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
Get as much stuff as you can like mentioned, plug socket, socket set with all the sockets that you would need to save weight, fuses, bulbs, some form of electrical repair kit? Spare brake pads? Well on a bike fitted with pads atleast, allen keys, torx keys (star). spare speedo, clutch and throttle cables. Brake cable?

Lol hows the bike gunna move under all these spare parts?


Why take a whole socket set if the bike only uses a few different sizes? Plus it's not like you'll need every single one anyway, you can't fix everything by the side of the road. Fuses weigh virtually nothing, same for bulbs. Can't see much going wrong electrically that could actually be fixed at the side of the road, assuming the bike is in good condition in the first place. Brake pads would be checked before the ride and replaced then, shouldn't need to be replacing them en-route. Easier fix for brake/clutch cable is those little things where you screw both ends of the cable into a little block for a temporary fix until you get home.

I could go on... but the gist is to economise! You can't be ready for every eventuality! Take as little as possible and don't take what you won't use in reality.
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

St0rmer66 wrote:
XlonewolfX wrote:
Get as much stuff as you can like mentioned, plug socket, socket set with all the sockets that you would need to save weight


Why take a whole socket set if the bike only uses a few different sizes? Plus it's not like you'll need every single one anyway, you can't fix everything by the side of the road. Fuses weigh virtually nothing, same for bulbs. Can't see much going wrong electrically that could actually be fixed at the side of the road, assuming the bike is in good condition in the first place. Brake pads would be checked before the ride and replaced then, shouldn't need to be replacing them en-route. Easier fix for brake/clutch cable is those little things where you screw both ends of the cable into a little block for a temporary fix until you get home.

I could go on... but the gist is to economise! You can't be ready for every eventuality! Take as little as possible and don't take what you won't use in reality.

Sorry did i not already say that?
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PostPosted: 04:08 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't bother with a speedo cable, would you really stop but the side of the road to fix your speedo. Don't bother with brake shoes
keep up with maintainance than rather than take shoes with you.

What you should do is think are all the things you could/would need to do at the side of the road and work out what tools you need. You are not gonna be changing clutch plates or checking valve clearences at the side of the road. You shouldn't need that many tools.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:06 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad made a toolbox for his CB350 out of some 3" PVC tubing. He put a screw-on end on one side and used stainless steel cable ties* to hold it on. Cheap as dirt and water tight.

* I can't think of their real name off the top of my head. They're like zip ties. You use a flathead screwdriver or 1/4" hex ratchet to turn a bolt that loosens and tightens them. The setup is ugly as all hell, but it's worked since he got the bike new in '73.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravo wrote:
My dad made a toolbox for his CB350 out of some 3" PVC tubing. He put a screw-on end on one side and used stainless steel cable ties* to hold it on. Cheap as dirt and water tight.

* I can't think of their real name off the top of my head. They're like zip ties. You use a flathead screwdriver or 1/4" hex ratchet to turn a bolt that loosens and tightens them. The setup is ugly as all hell, but it's worked since he got the bike new in '73.


banjo clips i think they are called.
that's damn good idea - and to make it less ugly you could place it somewhere more hidden and/or paint it.
i have my tools in a small tool bag which came with a bigger one i had before, it's about the size of a womans purse and fits nicely under the seat. i have:
mole grips
adjustable spanner
2 screwdrivers (one of each type)
a few small screwdrivers with tiny heads - great for pushign stuff or moving small things without damage
cable ties
tape
tyre pressure gauge

i think thats it - but im not sure. there are spare fuses on the bike anyway and if a bulb goes i can struggle on (use high beam if its the headlight, or if its a rear light i have two anyway and if its an indicator then i can just signal or be more careful)
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ravo wrote:
They're like zip ties. You use a flathead screwdriver or 1/4" hex ratchet to turn a bolt that loosens and tightens them. .


Jubilee Clips or worm drive hose clips Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

jez. I just have the tool kit that came with the bike.

Get the bike serviced regularly carry a mobile and become an RAC member. Ride everywhere with your fingures and toes crossed and have your bike blessed by any 2 religions. Lucky heather ziptied to the handlebars is also a wise precortion.


A toolkit is useless. Murphys law states that if you do break down, you will need the one tool you have not got in your toolbox.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 18 Dec 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The toolkit that came with my honda is pretty brilliant, has alot of tools in litle space! I wanna get some duct tape, zip ties and some other stuff together, jut the really versatile things... A knife of some sort is a wonderful tool as well.

If Ray Mears was a biker, he'd have a very sharp knife. Wink
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