open face helmet with a steel chin bar ?

[colin1]

the ski-ing is on, and the skiers have open face helmets, but with a chin bar of 2 loops of steel, diameter less than 1 cm

seems like s great idea for motobike helmets, giving the open face feel, but with a bit more safety

anyone seen anything like this for motorbikes ?
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[TUG]

Its not open face if its not "open" to the rest of the enviorment IMO. Just wear a full face, its safer, plus its been around for years now, i know open faced helmets where first but ffs, if its been proven to work and is safer then use it.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Some people prefer open helmets. Sure in some situations they might not be as safe, but then if that was the only consideration we would all be in cars.

All the best

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[mr.z]

Appears to be a good idea but in practice you'll have a face full of steel bar.. allthough were you not in a full face then your chin will have taken that force.

The fact that bar is removeable is a worry, if it was a continuous bar running the circumfrence without any brakes it would probably be not too bad..

Another interesrting thing, on another forum somebody said their optician commented about his bikeing, he said he could tell he rode and had an openfaced helmet because his cornea was covered in scratches from the road crap hiting his eyes..
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[stinkwheel]

[mr.z]

Interesting point raised, imo because you can see so much more theres far less chance of something being missed and subsiquently ran into/over by.
Another thing is in the event of an accident and your airway is blocked what happens then? helmet off? what if its the only thing holding your brain from falling out like a gruesome trifle? or watch you suffocate?


I use a flip up lid which in effect might as well be an open face (not sure if they test them as open?) but going the whole way of open faced elmit would make me nervious..

haveing said that if i was going touring i'd get myself an open lid for the reasons mentioned above.
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[stinkwheel]

There is also the false sense of security people get from being enclosed in a full face helmet, which when it comes down to it, is a piece of thin plastic filled with polystyrene. It can encourage more risk taking. They think because they spent £350 on a helmet, they aren't going to be badly injured in a crash.

I am personally under no illusions about my helmet. In a high speed crash it is going to be little or no use. If I hit my head on a stationary object at anything over 20mph, I may as well not be wearing it. In a significant proportion of accidents it may even cause additional injuries to my neck and upper spine.

I wonder what would happen to the serious/fatal accident rate if full-face helmets were banned .
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[nick606]

I think helmets are more to prevent injury with sliding down the road / bouncing down the road rather than stopping dead from any speed although i believe they do help.

I think it was bazza who posted a picture of his lid after a accident in one of the last helmet debates threads where his helmet has significant damaged to the front/chin piece and he would have been royally screwed if he wasn't wearing one or if he was wearing a half faced helmet.

Although i doubt this will change your opinion as you seem to have a hatred of all helmets

[stinkwheel]

[iooi]

OK not uk based, Some Stats
Personally i would ride with a helmet no matter what.

We argue here that gloves/leathers/textiles should be worn at all time while on the bike, to protect from damage. So it then figures that the head needs the same or more protection due to its exposed nature.

Not sure i like the idea of steel bars infront of my teeth, if you bounce them on the road they will bend and if bent far enough will push back into your face, unlike a current fullface helmet which would spring back.
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[Whosthedaddy]

Open faced helmet with some steel for protection, now where have I seen those before?










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[Cigaro]

It's all down to personal choice. Myself, having lost teeth in a pushbike crash without a helmet, I'd much rather wear a full-face helmet on a motorbike. That's not to say others should.

[acwman]

[stan hyd]

Open face helmets can leave you open to some horrific accidents. I saw a picture of a chap who was wearing one on a naked sports bike and crash - lets just say he didnt have much of a bottom jaw left!


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[Paivi]

I've been wearing my Schuberth J1 (open face, with a full length visor and a chin bar of some non-steel material) for about two years now, and I feel much safer wearing it than I do wearing my full face Schuberth S1, even at motorway speeds.

The reason: I see so much more with the J1. Having such a huge aperture means I don't lose any vision ahead or around me. So, while in an accident, I might be better off with a full face helmet, I think I'm less likely to be in an accident caused by my own poor obs when wearing the open face lid.

A tiny movement of the head, if that, is all I need to do a life saver, in fact my IAM instructor was complaining I don't do any until he tried the helmet and realised I don't need to move my head. I now do that anyway to signal to the vehicle behind that I'm about to make a move but only for that reason.

These helmets are tested to the flip-up standards, and the way I see it, if those weren't safe, coppers wouldn't be wearing them.
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[colin1]

[.Chris.]

I don't have a full face lid, I normally wear a Nitro open face (a 3/4 'jet' style one) with goggles. I do like the openness but I wouldn't mind a full-face for the extra weather protection - raindrops hitting your face at 70mph feels like being repeatedly stabbed with needles!

For around town use, I recently bought a Caberg Breeze 1/2 helmet. I think it's great, it hardly feels like you're wearing a lid at all. I wouldn't have thought it would give much protection but that doesn't really bother me as I only wear it on trips where I wouldn't wear a helmet given the choice.
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[repiV]

That Schuberth J1 looks awesome. I can definitely see me buying one of those in the future.

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