Giving up smoking

[Marcg868]

Go on whats the best advice you can give to me.

I have been smoking since i was 14- 18 i then give up and started smoking again last year on my 21st birthday. Im not 22 and really really want to give up for good.

My mum has given up for a good 8 years, also my Step Dad died of Lung cancer and he smoked till the day before he died.

I really dont enjoy smoking, i just do it for the sake of having something to do i think, especially at work. Because if i dont smoke i end up eating chocolate and crisps and fizzy drinks etc.

My mate smokes so i go out for a cig when he does, and i smoke more when i drink, however i hardly smoke at home, only ever when warming the bike up in the morning etc.

Suggestions, do patches work?
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[trevoriv]

Whatever you spend on cigs put the same amount in a jar every time and count it up every so often, my dad did the same thing roughly smoking 20 a day and after a year he had £2000 in change in a massive whisky jar.

When he went and bought a car with the cash it kinda stunned him into realising just how expensive it is.
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[Marcg868]

well yeah £5 a day is £35 a week £140 a month!!!! so financially it will do me good.
Just need to pull my finger out, ive tried the mind over matter method and i lasted 2 days.
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[Visitor Q]

I'm a firm believer that if you want to quit you can quit.

I can quit easily, but i always start again when im abroad to give myself something to do Itjust feels right in the sun to sit in the shade somwhere and roll up a fag, leisurely taking it all in.

Just make sure you dont do all these bizarre patches etc, or if you do get them on the nhs for free. They seriously sting you for them in shops.
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[gmanxiii]

If you get cranky and aggressive without the cigs use it as a boost to let out some steam at the gym
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[D O G]

I've said it before, and I will say it again. Read Alan Carr's 'The Only Way to Stop Smoking'.

That book is genius. Both myself and my missus stopped using it, and several of my friends too.

[Marcg868]

Well i now have a really bad chest infection, so we'll try this method, ive really not wanted a cig atall since ive got this.
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[Marcg868]

Can you get stuff free then, because its really expensive for patches etc.
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[stinkwheel]

Interesting to note that there is little difference in price between the stronger and weaker patches. A half strength patch is just a half-size full-strength one.

So, buy the strong ones and cut them in half = half the cost.

I soon chucked in using the patches because they made me feel sick.

I sucked cloves instead.

I have put on 8kg of weight since I stopped a couple of months ago and I have turned into a real boring, antisocial bugger who never goes out. I also feel slow a lot of the time.

I have noticed little or no benefit to stopping smoking thus far.
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[Visitor Q]

[stinkwheel]

No, it's because I feel lethargic and slow. Kind of dull, I just can't get enthusiastic about anything.

I used to go out to the pub every night I wasn't on call, regular as clockwork. Out of a need to socialise with non-work people more than anything.

Lately I've been fully intending to go out to the pub right up to the moment I need to get up off my arse and leave the house. At this point I get a sudden feeling of total apathy and remain slouched in my chair typing messages to you lot. Now no offence, but that's REALLY no way to be going on with your life.

I still land up sitting up to the wee small hours etc. I'm getting the same amount of sleep as I was before, I'm just not doing anything remotely useful with the time I'm awake

Stopping smoking is turning me into a fat, lazy, antisocial, boring bastard with no social skills.

Yes folks, it's true. Stopping smoking turns you into an American.

Some people might say it's because my brain seratonin levels have dropped so low they're hanging out of my arse, and that the middle of winter is quite possibly THE worst time to have picked to do this. That seems like too much of a rational explanation though. I prefer to be morose and whinging about it.
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Grav]

Smoking makes you look cool and interesting and the ladies think it makes one look rugged and manly.

Well, that's what Marlboro wanted us to believe in the 50's.

I gave up smoking for around 6 months, then got on a ferry at Aberdeen and started again. It was that clean, fresh sea air. I couldn't handle it after being cooped up in a town for months breathing in pollutants.....I had to make my lungs feel at home......

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[SoND]

Stopped for 3/4 months after taking a load of magic mushrooms and decided they didn't taste right while I was spaced so it was pretty easy. Went on a trip with a group of american christians and was smoking again by the 2nd day, haven't bothered trying to quit again since.

So yeah, take loads of mushrooms.

[Visitor Q]

[stinkwheel]

I have my doubts as to the chances of a directly ingested neurotransmitter surviving passage through the gut, being taken up into the circulation unaltered then finding its way past the blood-brain barrier and into the correct part of my brain.

It's a good thought but I suspect it would be like trying to cure anaemia by giving someone blood to drink.

Trouble is, whatever you could take to increase your seratonin levels will have a tendancy to make you want more of it, that's why I was smoking. You really need to wait for the basal levels to increase back to normal levels. Taking 'enhancements' would just slow this process down.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Visitor Q]

Quite possibly correct on all fronts, and im well aware the buggers at holland and barrett being happy to sell expensive sugar pills.

However, as i say, it always seem to cure come downs with me. Its the precursor to serotonin and i don't feel it would be a problem with the acid etc feasibly. But you're right about the BBB...
Oh well, placebo power for the win. Knocks me conko after a night of pilling and i wake up bright and breezy, i'll take the ignorant effect in this case

Speaking of the BBB, i was talking to someone last night who was adamant they are no erythrocytes in the brain... hence its gray colour. Since the BBB just envelopes capillaries it becomes a matter of how vascularised neural tissue is, which is something im now very curious about. I thought (and still do) think he's talking arse, but hes reasonably shit hot on his pharmacology and apparently did histology slides from brain matter at some point (although he was also adamant -up until wikipedia- women didnt have urethra's as they have shorter tubes... bless)

As for dependence i know what you're saying with negative feedback loops etc. But surely getting out of a sedentary lifestyle will do more for your health long term anyway, not to mention avoid you thinking fuck it and ending up relapsing.
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[stinkwheel]

Plenty of blood around the outside of the brain but the actual brain tissue is supplied via cerebro spinal fluid which moves along a central aqueduct. The blood-brain barrier is correctly named.

The crossover point between blood and CSF is called the choronoid plexus if I remember correctly.
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Harold_Shand]

Sounds like you smoke like I do, I probably get through 30 fags a week. I'm sure you sniff up more carconigins by being a cyclist amongs heavy traffic traffic twice a day, so fuck 'em.

I could give up tomorrow, I can go without fags for months on end, then I'll smoke again for a while, then I'll pack it in because it's getting out of hand, then I'll start again.

I really enjoy smoking, but I couldn't do that smoking 10-30 a day shit, stinking all the time, and being PROPERLEY addicted. That's a bit of a mugs game imo.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

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[Zen Dog]

I just quit weed after being an everyday toker for basically 10 years, and its surprised me how easy it's been so far, i don't even miss it. But I cant be arsed sitting around doing nowt now, so it does get a little frustrating (especially since both my bikes are off the road and the weather is foul).

Which brings me to the second thing. I'm trying to quit smoking altogether (smoking for 14 years), and i'm not doing too badly in work (only had one today), but i cant handle the boredom at home, and i find it really hard to calm down when i get wound up without a ciggy.

Which is why, so far, i havent quit outright, because i know i'd just be thinking about it all the time, and bouncing off the walls everytime something didnt go my way (like the gear linkage on the MZ snapping yesterday, grrrr).

Think i need some good books, but i just finished reading "Dune" and "I am Legend" again. Anyone got any recommendations?

Zen Dog
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[Zen Dog]

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