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 Posted: 21:32 - 05 Jan 2008 Post subject: New bike test |
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Hi,
Was talking to the people at the training school I passed test at today, and they were telling me about the new test.
(This could well have been posted before)
Apparently there is a part in the offroad section, where you have to ride at exactly 50KPH, and then swerve, as if a car had reversed off a drive towards you.
She said they have spent thousands on speed camera things, to make sure you are doing exactly 50KPH.
Also told me one of the very experienced riders there was demonstrating the new test, and failed this part 6 times in a row for not doing the exact speed.
How are you meant to do this exact speed when everyone knows speedos are usually slightly out?
Why is the speed 50kph, when that is over our 30mph speed limit?
As said, only going on what I have been told, so dont shoot me
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 Posted: 21:36 - 05 Jan 2008 Post subject: |
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As I cynically expect the new test is nothing to do with safety but to reduce the numbers of bikes on the road by making impossible and pointless tasks in the tests.
As bikes provide technical difficulties for road pricing plans that are going to be rolled out add 5-10 years and there will be far fewer bikes on the road.
This puts us into cars which = more fuel = more tax + road pricing victims ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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 Posted: 22:38 - 05 Jan 2008 Post subject: |
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To be honest I think the people at the school may have been exagerating a little, or just completely talking out their . There would be no need for anyone to ride at an exact speed; there is no real life situation in which you need to do so. Also I doubt they would make the test that dangerous (the swerve part), the bike schools would sure get through some bikes with all those crashes
I've heard (again from a school instructor) that it is some offroad training, with things like more complex cornering/handling, but I couldn't back that up either.
What I do know is that the price of the test will go uppppp!
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These won't come in until october so luckily i just avoid it by one year
Bit stupid if you ask me, how is doing a swerve on the test going to help at all. When someone pulls out you have no time to think you just react....which is swerving away. So they are just making you do a basic instinct not a skill  ____________________ |--Previous--|:2007 Aprilia SX50... --Current--|: 2007 Kawasaki ER-6N
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You do low speed slalom and figure of 8 in your CBT or at least I did  ____________________ Full licence from 16/4/08
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yep that is exactly what i ws told by my intructor too! he showed me a map of the curcuit and you have to be going round a bend to be building up the speed before they use a hand held speed gun to make sure you hit the target aparently the local guy that was explaining the test fell off and has his arm in sling as we speak so if even the top dsa bods cant do it then new riders have no hope!
Will try blag a copy of the route and put it up
needless to say there shall be and has been many objections to it from the trainers! |
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| Itchy wrote: | As I cynically expect the new test is nothing to do with safety but to reduce the numbers of bikes on the road by making impossible and pointless tasks in the tests.
As bikes provide technical difficulties for road pricing plans that are going to be rolled out add 5-10 years and there will be far fewer bikes on the road.
This puts us into cars which = more fuel = more tax + road pricing victims |
I completely agree.
The skill of being a good rider comes with practice and time riding. No on or off site training will prepare anyone for jack shit. Knowing you have to stop is completely different to not knowing and having to stop in an emergancy. After all, you cant practice having to deal with shit car drivers. Its just a way to prevent or make it harder for new riders.
Im all for preventing accidents, but sometimes shit happens and I dont think its just new rider/driver inexperience thats to blame. Its just typical that in order to prevent the accidents and increase 'safety' they have to incorporate something into the bike test, when they probably should address the fact that cars pull out on bikes. Not the other way around. ____________________ Current: MT-10, Bandit, Grom, GPZ500
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 66 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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