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PostPosted: 19:50 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: And the West is the problem in Africa. Reply with quote

I looks like fun to kill the folk you 'think' you don't like.
Once again the West, the scourge of Africa, has to put it's hand in it's pocket to bail out people subject to the same greed from the same individuals who sold the same people to the West.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please elaborate as I'm a bit lost, did you mean Kenya or something else?
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:01 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like Nursey's late with his medication...
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be this: Kenyan food effort...? Eh?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its about time the West stood back and let them sort it out themselves. Yes the West did put their fingers in the pie for a few years, but lets face it Africa is just doing what Africa has always done, just the weapons are a bit more advanced.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with skudd - pull all of the aid and western involvement out of Africa, and leave them to it. In 5 years they'll either all kill each other, or realise they have to stand on their own two feet and sort themselves out.
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 07 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of Africa is controlled by Africans. Ultimately Africans have power to decide what they want.
The continent is still rich with resources they will never realise until they master the greed of the the ruling class.

Step back and it will pour into our civilisations they need civilisation and will do anything to get it except challenge their corrupt leaders.
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 07 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
Looks like Nursey's late with his medication...


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PostPosted: 08:49 - 07 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
I agree with skudd - pull all of the aid and western involvement out of Africa, and leave them to it. In 5 years they'll either all kill each other, or realise they have to stand on their own two feet and sort themselves out.


All those Africans do is eat, sleep and breed. I struggle to look into their eyes and think, yeah, they're worth it.

It's like humans keeping animals alive, we should stop fucking about with nature, let them die, its the way the world goes. Only the strongest survive and all that.
There's no place for savages on the planet any more, we've got to move on.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 07 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
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I agree with skudd - pull all of the aid and western involvement out of Africa, and leave them to it. In 5 years they'll either all kill each other, or realise they have to stand on their own two feet and sort themselves out.


All those Africans do is eat, sleep and breed. I struggle to look into their eyes and think, yeah, they're worth it.

It's like humans keeping animals alive, we should stop fucking about with nature, let them die, its the way the world goes. Only the strongest survive and all that.
There's no place for savages on the planet any more, we've got to move on.


It is easy to say that, and I have thought the same thing when faced with a thousand of the smelly basterts in a Nigerian market.
We need to colonise the continent again. Bring them under control so they live as the west do according to law. Only thing these people respect is an 'Iron Fist'. Then let that fist be ours.
There is enough money in Nigeria to finance the deal.
Any other country has any objections we have nuclear arms to vapourise them too.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
We need to colonise the continent again. Bring them under control so they live as the west do according to law. Only thing these people respect is an 'Iron Fist'. Then let that fist be ours.


All the country is useful for is what’s in the land and a little stiff competition at the Olympics. The people provide us with piss all so why should 'we' try to restore order amongst primitive savages? Only the pathetic staving ones will turn around and thank us for it in the end.

Old tribal willy waving will never die its seems, they’ve been murdering, burning and raping each other for decades now and all the west seem to do is stick it in the news as a tragedy that some of them are hungry. I don’t see it as tragedy, its stupidity, this isn’t even a war with an aim to gain from it.
I struggle to have any sympathy for the machete wielding brown people of Africa now due to this unwillingness to take a step back and realise they’re on a sinking ship. The news report this crisis as if we are supposed to be doing something about it, or that’s how I feel every time they mention words like, famine, homelessness, disease.

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PostPosted: 12:05 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
Fuck em


That's exactly what we have done and continue to do.

African countries like Somalia/Kenya where we see the usual suffering are kept at a constant state of poverty and illness by many means.

Firstly they give arms and funding to the corrupt governments or warlords of that region.

Then there's the IMF/WorldBank loans that they give to these dictators that they encourage not to pay off. (If they default the infrastructure is then taken as collateral)

If there's any rebellion then Al-CIAda suddenly appear and the West bombs the f*ck out of them. The funded warlords are brought back in and retake control. (Somalia '07anyone?)

Then there's the constant UN vaccinations laced with Aids / cancer etc etc.

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PostPosted: 13:07 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Then there's the constant UN vaccinations laced with Aids / cancer etc etc.


I normally agree with you on most things but surely this can't be true.

Where have you heard that?
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew wrote:

Where have you heard that?

Probably on the T'internet. Rolling Eyes

Was a good post until the Tabloid esque reply came up.

The UK, France, Italy and Germany a little have screwed Africa over for 300 years.


To be fair, geopolitically, Africa isn't a country that should be host to human beings. In most parts there is a complete lack of water and food for survival.

Whilst the most basic resources are almost non-existence, there will be no peace and harmony in Africa.

That and the fact that Africa has had no development socially so they are operating in the Dark ages, bunch of criminals with no respect for one another.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Killa...fvck 'em. Humanity aside, why were they still living in straw huts when we were about ten light years ahead of them on the technology tree? Culture? Paradise sussed, whilst we went off down that industrial road to hell?

They are obsolete bodies and need to be got rid of, so that when we're reborn we don't end up in a fvcking Lada.

Then the arabs, they're another defunct species/culture who contribute a big fat squat to the human race. Which is a shame, because until they allowed their pygmy-shite religion to turn them all into ignorant savages they were doing quite well.

I see starving africans on the TV now, I switch over and forget what I've just seen in about the time it takes me to drop another After Eight into my yap. Charidee? Fvck 'em, they'll not get a lead farthing from me. Starve, die of disease, tuff shit, should have thought of all that before ya'll elected/allowed beasts to take over your rotten continent and turn it into an aids-infested sewer. Then expect us to supply a never-ending convoy of cash and goods, so you can let the afore-mentioned beasts thieve it all and salt it away in swiss bank-accounts. But not before buying the sycophant chimps nice shiny new machetes, so they can go chop a few more thousands childrens' arms off. And then rape more aids into their mothers.

Not hard to see why aids was deployed there. Just a shame it was so badly done.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew wrote:

I normally agree with you on most things but surely this can't be true.
Where have you heard that?


Do a search for de-population and vaccines... Idea

Dr. Strecker indicated that the AIDS virus was in fact developed by the National Cancer Institute, in cooperation with the World Health Organization (WHO), in a laboratory at Ft. Dietrick in Maryland. From 1970–74, this laboratory facility was part of the U.S. Army’s germ warfare unit, known as the Army Infectious Disease Unit, or Special Operations Division, also referred to as the Army’s Chemical Biological Warfare Laboratory. Post 1974, the facility was renamed the National Cancer Institute (NCI).

https://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/october2005/271005madeinusa.htm [original link broken]

UNICEF Nigerian Polio Vaccine Contaminated with Sterilizing Agents Scientist Finds
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Officials Say Drug Caused Nigeria Polio
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SV40, Polio Vaccine, and Cancer: Now Beyond Coincidence?
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Nobel peace laureate claims HIV deliberately created
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Dr Sweet interview on contaminated vaccines
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Black men of Tuskegee experiment
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Mercury in vaccine found to be 250 times higher than recommended [safe level]
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The needle and the damage done
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Vaccine officials knew about MMR risks
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uk germ testing on population
https://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4398507,00.html


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PostPosted: 15:12 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:

Not hard to see why aids was deployed there. Just a shame it was so badly done.


If it was done here, and we were prevented from developing as they have been, we would probably be acting very similarly.

We're just lucky the gun barrel is pointing at them. How long until we are targeted?
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck em, they contribute nothing to our world, and never will, no matter how much "aid" is provided. All that goes on there is murder and overpopulation.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:


If it was done here, and we were prevented from developing as they have been, we would probably be acting very similarly.

We're just lucky the gun barrel is pointing at them. How long until we are targeted?


Who, or what, had prevented them from being at the same technological level as we were when we first encountered them?

We didn't prevent their development in any way, shape or form. Their own culture was, and is, responsible for that.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 08 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really the catalyst for development is ironically war.

Go back 1500 years and folks in China would laugh at the obselete European technology , as they had been killing each other for the last 3000 years and in war you always seek more efficient ways to kill each other to negate advantages of others ie highly skilled swordsmen get felled by cross bows. Archers are defeated with rocket propelled arrows. But then somebody called Chin united the warring factions and there was (relative peace) for a while...

The Europeans then had a long history of slaughtering each other for about 1000 years , from spears to clubs to swords to maces to arrows to gun powder, we killed each other for a very long time. As Europe has had mostly empires we exported war to many corners of the earth.



Its pretty much normal human technological development,

The difference is while Europeans killed each other , and Chinese killed each other is that we exported it, and that African conditions aren't the same as in China and or Europe ie it isn't as comparatively densely populated, and as such less encroachment happens,

Ie you make a nice little farm sted, I move onto your land , you can kill me or move away, thing is if you kill me more people will come to do the same and you think sack this lets move away, you trundle off a few miles down the road , until it happens again , africa being absolutely massive you can do this for ages, Europe isn't China is bigger but has loads of people.

my 2 cents anyway.
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 09 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:

We didn't prevent their development in any way, shape or form. Their own culture was, and is, responsible for that.


I have to disagree.

Corrupt puppet leaders are encouraged to sell any infrastructure to foreign corporations, whilst pocketing any aid monies on extravagent lifestyles and klashnikovs for their 'pretorian guard'.

They are designed to stay as 3rd world nations. When was the last time one of these dictators started doing anything for their own economies? Economic warfare innit.

I cannot blame the people for this. Neither should anyone else.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 10 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Hetzer wrote:

We didn't prevent their development in any way, shape or form. Their own culture was, and is, responsible for that.


I have to disagree.

Corrupt puppet leaders are encouraged to sell any infrastructure to foreign corporations, whilst pocketing any aid monies on extravagent lifestyles and klashnikovs for their 'pretorian guard'.

I cannot blame the people for this. Neither should anyone else.


This is only possible for our leaders because of how the Africans are willing to treat each other.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 10 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our leaders don't exactly treat US very well do they? , they are generally corrupt self serving and do everything AGAINST the public interest on a "mandate" of 22% of the population's votes.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 10 Jan 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
This is only possible for our leaders because of how the Africans are willing to treat each other.


Yeah - because Europeans and the rest of the Western World have always been such angels towards each other.

Africa is behind the rest of the world, but it doesn't mean its ok to just let them die off. You must lead a pretty spiteful life if you show anger and resentment towards Africans!
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